POSTED BY February 4, 2010 COMMENTS (829)
ONMost of us want to open a PPF account , but keep postponing it just because we don’t know the requirement of doing so? It seen that majority people open their PPF account with State Bank of India. Let us see 3 easy steps of opening a PPF account in SBI branch. The whole process does not take more than 30-45 minutes if you prepared in advance and go with all the documents that are required and there are no road blocks in between. The biggest advantage of opening the PPF account with SBI is the online transaction facility you can use to deposit in your PPF account online and dont have to rush to the branch every now and then. Read why you should open a PPF account in SBI even if you dont need it right now .
1) Choose a SBI branch which is authorized to go government business.
Usually any ‘large’ branch with lots of customers should be able to this! Usually newer and smaller branches may not have this clearance facility. One doesn’t need to have a Saving Bank account in that branch. Locate your nearest SBI Branch using this
2) Procure and submit PPF account opening form and Identity/address Proofs
It would only 3 minutes to fill. Choose a nominee and get a witness signature. Now you have to submit anyone of following Proofs.
Any government issued identity card or address proof should work. Keep originals for proof in hand to simplify the verification if needed. That’s it. The bank should now be able to open the account. Usually it may take about 20 minutes or so.
3) Get PPF Passbook
A pay-in slip needs to be filled and the initial subscription needs to be credited into your account. A passbook similar to a Saving Book passbook will be issued with your photo affixed and the nominee’s name stated. PPF rules can be found on the back. This is all, your PPF account in SBI is opened now.
If you have an online SBI account, you can add the PPF account as a third party account for transferring money directly. As mentioned above the PPF account can be in any SBI branch. There are no processing charges for doing this transfer. When you do this online for the first time, go to the bank and update your PPF passbook and check if the transaction has occurred correctly. This has to be done since you cannot look at the amount in the PPF account as yet in SBI. This is a major drawback of SBI-PPF (and post office) accounts.
A standing instruction maybe issued from your online account for auto-credit to PPF . However there are two disadvantages
There are only 12 credit transaction allowed per year. So take care of this before issuing a standing instruction.
Take xerox of the PPF passbook updated with all transactions and get it attested in the branch. (not sure if the attestation is really required) [ Update 5th Feb, thanks for Mithilesh ]
Subscriptions must be made before the 5th of every month for the amount to taken into account for interest calculation for that month. If you want to open a PPF accoun in the name of a minor in addition to yours, the total PPF investment limit is Rs. 1,00,000. The total tax benefit is also the same. This is a new rule and is not yet printed in the PPF passbooks! See Here, Here and Here for more detail
Comments please. Are you going to Open a PPF accoun this year? Do you feel one should open a PPF account at Post Office?
Hi Manish,
There is no drawback of SBI-PPF accounts. You can always have the online viewing rights from SBI for PPF account opened with them. I’m already having this facility for my SBI PPF Account since 2011. I always transfer my PPF subscription online from my SBI savings account.
The following are the benefits of viewing rights in PPF account.
– I can always check the credit of my PPF subscription instantly
– I can download the PPF passbook
– I can check the annual interest credited to PPF account.
Hi Suren
Thanks for your sharing your valuable comment on this topic. Please keep sharing your views in future also
Manish
hi, suren
i would like to know how to change the amount in standing instruction in SBI-PPF.
I wish to change from 3000 to 1000 .
thanks
Hi Abhishek
This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that
Manish
There is no option to modify your standing instruction. There is a chance to cancel the existing Standing instruction and create new standing instruction with the amount as you want. please check in e-services tab in SBI netbanking.
Can anyone open the PPF account in SBI without having saving account in SBI?
As per rules, YES .
As per the rule we can make 12 payments only per year in PPF account. I have opened my PPF account during December 2013. How to calculate the one year period. Is it December to Next November or January to December or March to February?( Normally interest calculated and paid 31st march) Please guide me. Send to my email. Thank you.
Its Apr- Mar
i had opened a ppf account in one sbi branch and then i got it transferred to other sbi branch because of my transfer.now the staff at new branch is asking me to fill ppf account opening form again.is it required??advise me please.thanks
Hi lucky
No , its a transfer case and hence you dont need to do that again , also tell them they are doing an illegal thing asking you to open TWO PPF account which is not permitted by law !
The PPF limit has been increased to 1.5L p.a.. Please update your blog.
Thanks for sharing that Ritesh
Hi Manish,
Thanks for the excellent post.
I have a PPF account at Bangalore post office . Before I moved to Mumbai I approached the PO requesting for transfer of the account to Mumbai PO but was told theres no need to do so as in a few days time PPF accounts will be operated across post offices via a centralised system. This was six months back and the centralised system is still not been implemented so being in Mumbai I cannot deposit in my PPF any more.
My question –
* Can I get the PPF account transferred over to Mumbai with help of agents ?
* My PPF account is only two years old with 10k deposited. Will it be better to open a new PPF at a SBI mumbai branch ? I can later on transfer the old account when I visit Bangalore next
You cannot open a new PPF account. Every person can open only one PPF account. You better transfer the account. Visit your nearest SBI branch and get the account transferred there with their help.
As of now I dont think there is any way to deposit in PPF other than going to POST OFFICE .
Thank you for the above valid inputs.
And, as I told you, I opened it in one of near by post offices. Now, that post office is closed. I forgot the PPF account number 🙁 . How can I track?
Is there any source to track my PPF account number though my full name or, PAN card number?
The best thing you can now do is file a RTI to Post Office and you will get your answer on where its transferred ?
RTI?
Can you please share the procedure to file a RTI to Post Office
Ramesh
The process is explained here – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/03/rti-for-epf-withdrawal-or-transfer.html
I opened a post-office PPF account in 2008. Paid only 2 premiums. Is it valid?. If not, Can I activate it ? Please confirm.
You can activate it again by paying a Rs 50 penalty for each year you have not paid along with minimum Rs 500 per year
Can you please share if there any portal to find whether a particular Branch of SBI offers PPF or not?
I dont think there is anything like that !
Dear Manish,
I have a joint account with my wife in SBI. We both have separate PPF accounts. My ppf account was transferred from other SBI to current SBI. This account is now also linked with the above saving (jt) account. Thus I am able to access my PPF account thro’ net banking.
I have opened a PPF account for my wife in the current SBI. The subscriptions to this PPF account can be done from the saving (jt) account thro’ net banking.
But the problem is that that I cannot access my wife’s PPF account thro’ net banking whereas my PPF account can be access thro’ net banking.
Bank is unable to link this PPF account with the saving (jt) account. Please tell how to do it?
I think only one PPF account can be linked to saving bank . so thats why you cant link both of it !
Hi Manish,
Thanks for reacting to my querry.
That means to view my wife’s PPF account, she has to open a new saving bank account and link this SB account with her PPF ??
Yes, I think so
after maturity of PPF after 15 years whether benefited amount is again taxable? Rather I shall be paying tax again? Or as TDS tax will be deducted.
No , its not taxable, neither there is any TDS
Hi Manish,
I had opened PPF account in IDBI bank on my name, Is it okay to maintain that account or can I open another account with SBI on my name ?
No , you cant open more than one PPF account as per law, if you need one in SBI , you will have to transfer it from IDBI to SBI
sir,
pls tell me i ve invested in pf in sbi, returns is 8.7% will i be paid even from sbi wat i am paying i.e. will sbi will return double the amt after 15 yrs.
pls advise me soon
First PPF is not a SBI product , its a POST OFFICE product .
PPF is just managed by SBI bank and many other PSU banks, so yes, you will get more than double after 15 yrs
I enquired with 2/3 other branches/managers and all of them have confirmed that there is no such circular and sb account is not necessary. One of the branch managers even asked me to open account with him.
Thanks
Is it necessary/compulsory to have SB account with SBI? Today an accountant in the local branch said there is a circular issued by the Bank that SB account is compulsory to open PPF account with SBI. Would you please find out if there is any such circular by SBI.
Hmm . I am not sure https://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/sbi-bank-account-compulsory-to-open-ppf-at-sbi
Ask Bank officials about it and the circular number . Or use RTI for this – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/sbi-bank-account-compulsory-to-open-ppf-at-sbi
i want to open a ppf account.
How can we help you in that ? >. just go to SBI/ICICI/Post office and open one !
Hi Manish,
Thanks for the one more nice article.
Yes. Obviously… everyone should have PPF account….. I regret for not having it right now… I am going to collect the documents today and visit any of the branch…just realized THINKING does not work only ACTION helps … 🙂
True !
Can I open a PPF account in the name of my child (minor) inspite of maintaining a PPF account in my own name ?
If possible kindly send your answer to my above stated e-mail.
Yes, you can do that . Put your self in the place of nominee and guardian
I have listed the SBI bank branches in Bangalore where you can open PPF account ( not comprehensive) in my blog post:
http://sreejithsblog.blogspot.in/2012/07/how-to-open-ppf-account-with-sbi.html
Hello Sir,
I have few questions.
1. In a month can we deposit more than once?
2. In a financial year, if I deposit more than 1 Lakh, will I get an interest for the excess amount paid more than 1 Lakh?
3. I have opened an PPF a/c recently in SBI. Suppose after 5 years, If i get transferred to other state or any place, can I transfer my ppf account over there? If yes, will my existing ppf a/c be continued from 6th year onwards or will it be treated as a fresh ppf a/c continuing from 1st year??
1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
Hi Sir, in ppf account how much a persone can deposit , monthly 500 its gooing to 6000/- per year, after 15 years how much maturity come , is there any option to close the account any time and take all money, please give me adivse. thanku sir.
One can invest upto 1 lac per year and minimum 500 per year
Dear manish,
i am not able to go my bank branch. can i pay my fine online with regular saving in ppf. means will it auto diduct from my new payment from online.
I am not sure on that actually .. I think once its important to visit the bank
Hi Manish,
SBI branch in pune is asking me to have compulsory saving account for minor, if i need to open PPF account for minor. I confirmed from call center of SBI, but branch doesnt agree. Is there any website document which i can show them ? i alreayd have sbi saving account here.
Regards
kingt.
File a RTI and ask if its required . the truth will come out !
Hi,
Can you please tell me, is it sensible to open a ppf account and invest in the month of march 2013 or wait till april 2013.
– If i invest in mar 2013, what will be the benefit and
– If i invest in apr 2013, what will be the benifit
Also can you confirm, when ppf gets over in 15 years, does it mean the month of March of the 15th year?
Regards,
Bhopender
This article will clear your doubts – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/02/how-ppf-interest-is-calculated-video.html
This article will clear your doubts – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/02/how-ppf-interest-is-calculated-video.html
Hi Manish , I have 3 Question. Please reply.
Q1) Can I pay 12 installment in 1st year.,then 1 installment in second year, 6 installment in 3rd year so on ?
Q2) Can I pay 50,000/- in 1st year , 40,000/- second year, 80,000/- in 3rd year so on ?
Q3) To do the above[ Q1) & Q2) ] variable installments . Do we have to inform the bank in the time of opening the PPF account ?
Hi,
Me and my husband have a savings joint account in SBI and we both are working professionals. Is it possible to open 2 PPF accounts (one for each) with the same joint account we currently hold ?
Thanks,
Ramya
I think it should be possible
Hi Ramya,
Yes its possible. Recently , I and my wife has opened individual PPF account, while we have a joint account in SBI.
Thanks,
Sachin
Thanks for sharing that Sachin ! ..
Manish… one update which i thought this can be shares… may be you have answered already.. I have an SBI SB account. I have also opened a PPF account.Since I have internet banking facility i have linked my PPF account to my SB account in the customer ID. So i right now i have view only mode for the PFF account and transaction access for SB account. So what i do is montly transfer from my SB account to my ppf account and i since i have view only option i see the amount getting transfered immediately, i rarely update my passbook. I came to know from the banks authorities that it can be done provided a user has sb account and PPF account in the same branch in same cutomer id.
Good to hear that .. didnt knew that point
Dear Sir,
I saw an advertisement of SBI bank about Tax Saving Deposites for senior citizes annual interest 17.39% and for others 16.64% lock in period 5 years. Please suggest me for depositing money in this scheme.
Kailesh
Its just a trick .. read procyonfp.com/blog/needless-gimmick-for-a-harmless-product-is-mis-communication-a-bane/
Check this recent article – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2013/02/misleading-advertisements-financial-products.html
Mr. Manish,
After opening the PPF account with SBI, can I transfer the amount from an HDFC account to the SBI PPF account. I am not holding any other account with SBI. Also, do I need to do fill an application for enabling internet banking on my SBI PPF account after opening or do we get this functionality automatically?
Thanks.
You can do that .. just for once you will have to add your SBI PPF account to your HDFC bank account, read this article to learn more – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2011/12/ppf-account-online-investing-netbanking.html
Mr. Manish,
It is possible that in SBI PPF a/c we can deposite from any branch in india, or after NEFT/RTGS transfer, we can passbook compelete entry from any branch in india??
yes its possible
sir, Is it possible that I withdraw, partial after 10 year of account as per eligibility, from PPF in March 2013(i.e. Fy 12-13) and withdraw again partial after 11 year of account as per eligibility, from PPF in April2013(i.e. Fy 13-14)
Hi manish, Kindly suggest
Is it necessary to deposit every month/ year in PPF account or One time deposit is enough. Please suggest.
Rohan
You can deposit one time if you want each year .. no need for monthly !
Sir,
It is possible that in SBI PPF a/c we can deposite from any branch in india, or after NEFT/RTGS transfer, we can passbook entry from any branch in india??
Yes its possible
Hi Manish ,
Which branches of SBI in pune provide PPF facility??
It should be the main branch .. not sure of the address
Dear Manish,
please advise that in PPF account we can deposite through NEFT/RTGS from any other bank account or not?
You can deposit through NEFT .. see this – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2011/12/ppf-account-online-investing-netbanking.html
Respected sir,
I was working in zydus company( private company) from september 2012 to november 2012. During this period my ppf account is opened by company( may be in sbi). but due to some personal reason i resigned from job november 2012 . now i want to join public sector like as bank po . bt due to some reason( may be drawback in interview nd company will not issue the reliving letter ) so i do not want to tell the previous job( zydus company) during joining bank job. so problem is there ..
1. after joing bank , kya ye pata ho jayega ki mai 3 months zudus me work kiya tha due to existing ppf account..??
2. can i close this ppf account nd if it is possible then plz teel me procedure in shortcut.??
PPF has nothing to do with your employement , its always the EPF which mattes . PPF is something you open !
thanku sir for giving reply.. one more question regarding this…
1. yadi mai jo epf account zydus me open hai.. ise mai secrete rakhu menas banks job join karte time means na batau to kya galat hoga 9 yadi mai bank me new job jis company me join karu waha new epf account open karna chahu to) ..?? nd kya 2 diffrernt differnrt epf account kisi ka bi different different company me ho sakta hai…??? please suggest me sir….
2. can i withdraw the money from epf money if is it possible then plz teel me procedure in shortcut.
Yes, if u wish u can open another epf account, basically epf account is opened by ur co., so it doesn’t matter u can open another one or u can transfer ur amount from ur previous account to ur new account.But i will suggest it will be better to withdraw whole amount and open a new account.Also check from time to time whether ur co. is paying ur pf in ur epf a/c or not also is that the correct amount bec’z most of the co. also do fraud say more and deposit less or even skip for a month or two in between.So pls be carefull EPF fraud is common in corporate world.Specially small co. cheat their employees.
thanks a lot sir….:-)
Akash
Can you post your question in english , its getting tough to understand your question
Manish ,
Below which get better interest on PPF deposit
1 .If i deposit 48 k on Apr ’13 for whole year
or
2.Monthly 2k from Apr’13 to Mar’14
Please advice me .Thanks in advance
option 1
Thank you
Hi juggler,
I am now littel bit confused on some below points, kindly please out of from the stuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to invest rs 24000 in ppf every year. Can you please tell me, is it sensible to open a ppf account and invest in the month of feb – mar 2013 or wait till apr 2013.
– If i invest in feb – mar 2013, my 15 years tenure gets reduced by 1 year because the financial year is going to be over soon. My ppf will get over by 2027
– If i invest in apr 2013, my money will earn interest for the whole financial year of apr 13 – mar 14. But my ppf will get over only by 2028.
Also can you confirm, when ppf gets over in 15 years, does it mean the month of March of the 15th year?
Yes, you can open it in feb to save 1 yrs ..
also ppf gets interest each year credited, but its calculated on monthly basis
Hi Manish
I have SBI saving account at my hometown .
I would like to open PPF account in SBI Mumbai branch. So my question is
1)is it possible to open ppf ac in other branch.
2)which documents are required to open ppf account in other branch.
Vijay
1. Yes its possible to open at another branch
2. Address proof, identity proof !
Hi Manish,
I have a query that, in one month how much maximum amount i can deposit in my PPF account?
Can i deposit 1 Lakh in one month?
Yes, you can do that .. maximum 1 lac in full year , so once you deposit 1 lac in one month itself, then after that you cant do more in a single year
Hi Manish,
Is it ok to open a PPF account with Allahabad Bank?. Even though my branch, where I have a SB a/c, is not having this facility, they forward all the documents to the nearest branch & assists me to get it open. Will it makes any difficulty in any matters related to PPF? Apart from online transaction & viewing, is there any advantages or any disadvantages with any banks in providing this service? Kindly reply.
Hi Manish,
Your blog is quite informative, I have some doubts. I have my SBI saving account in Nagpur, but I dont avail online facility, I have my salary account in HDFC Pune branch and I avail online facility for this. Now I would like to open PPF account in SBI Pune branch. So my question is
1) Shall I have to transfer my saving account to Pune branch where I am going to open PPF account ?
2) Can I do NEFT trasnfer through HDFC salary account to PPF account ?
Please guide me with best suggestion.
1. Actually as per RBI , saving account is not required, but banks try their best to make sure you open one .
2. You can do that, but I suggest, you transfer your SBI bank account in the city you live and then open a PPF there itself, so that you can do everything online !
Hi Manish! my sbi bank manager told me that now ppf account in the name of minor can not be opened as it has been closed by the authorities. is it true? I wanted to open a ppf account for my 3 year daughter. please guide me.
You can open it . I am not sure what reason they are giving !
Thanks Manish , for your reply and such a nice article on PPF.
Even I am told that PPF account cannot be opened for minor. Can you please confirm?
Its not true .. you can open it for minor and parent can be the guardian !
1. Can i open the PPF Account without Saving Account?
2. Shall i do deposit the amount through non-home branch (SBI) wheather is it chargable?
3. How many time shall we deposit in the non- home branch in a year?
4. Shall i transfer (online) the money from other banks?
5. How much the minimum balance to be maintained?
1. yes, as per rules , but bank will insist on a account
2. No its not chargable, you will have to deposit it in same branch
3. Its 12 times max
4. Yes, it can be done
5. Nothing like that, min 500 has to be deposited each year !
can I apply throw net
No you cant , you need to visit the bank atleast once in the starting !
Hi! Manish Plz help me with ki which is better sbi or icici ppf a/c to open, interest rates & other facility wise, who can open ppf a/c, every year it compulsory to desposit 500 rs minimum, open how can i open sbi or icici a/c as i dont have time to go to branch so plz help accordingly
Regards,
Preeti
Dear,
I am interested to open a ppf a/c as soon as possible. I havea saving a/c in sbi and have been using the online facility also, can i open ppf online in sbi? or i’ll have to go in the office with all required documents?
You will have to visit SBI once to open the PPF account . then you can deposit the money online !
Hi Manish,
Is there any risk for having PPF account linked with ICICI salary Account.
or SBI wil be the safe option
regards,
Vivek
I dont think there is any risk !
I have a PPF a/c with Bank of Baroda. I would like to know cheque is to be drawn in favour of whom to deposit subscription.
Your PPF account , it has a number !
Manoj,
I know IDBI does in few of their branches. Here is the branch list http://www.idbi.com/pdf/GB_list_of_branches_authorised_PPF.pdf
Hi Manish,
Thanks for giving this good investment idea. Now I would like to know except SBI which are the others bank where I can open my PPF A/C. Please let me know the Bank list.
Thanks & Regards
Manoj Kumar Bhowmick
You can open it in IDBI bank or ICICI bank and other PSU banks
Hi,
I have a query.
Is it necessary to have a current SBI account in order to open a PPF account?
Would they allow us to open just a PPF account if we aren’t SBI customers?
Do we need to take along someone who has an account in SBI in oder to open a current or ppf account?
As per PPF rules, there is no requirement like that. But SBI officials try to play tricks on you to open a new account .
Hi Manish
I already have PPF account for myself.
My mother is 45 now. I want to give a gift of around 30L at the age of the 60. I thought PPf can also be used as an investment vehicle to reach this goal.
1. We tried approaching Indian bank for opening PPF account. But they told PPF account can only be opened in Post office and SBI. As she is having her savings account i thought it would be wise enough to open the PPF there itself.
Is the above statements true?
2. She is a house wife. I planned to offer her as a gift 1 L evey 1st april, so that she can put it in her PPF and earn the full interest.(This is jago investor idea, getting full interest on investing starting of the month)
Is this according to the law?
Pls guide me manish,
Happy diwali….I hope you will be continuing your service and make more people take an informed decision
Regards
Vignesh
1. Yes, PPF account can be opened only in post office, SBI and its associated banks and now ICICI bank .
2. Yes
thanks manish for the reply!
Hello Manish,
I have an account in SBI and I am interested to open PPF a/c with SBI. Is it possible to open PPF account online?
Thanks,
Chetan
No, you will have to once go to the SBI branch and do the required task ! , after that everything can be online
Thanks a lot Manish.
I am in love with ‘jagoinvestor.com’ from last week :). Really an eye-opener for beginners like me. I am reading all the posts (including those in archives). You are doing a very good job.
By the way I have ordered the book from Flipkart yesterday :). Waiting for the arrival.
Thanks,
Chetan
Nice to hear that Chetan .. Let me know once you read it , you can also send a blank mail to get a book kit (the email is mentioned in the book) . I would like to know your thoughts on book later on flipkart as well 🙂
LATEST PPF ACCOUNT DETAILS (2012)
http://www.statebankoftravancore.com/ppf.htm
hi,
i have a SBI account in Bangalore Branch. I want to apply for ppf so can i apply in Ranchi branch for the same.
Yes you can do that
Hi Manish, I came across this blog .. Really helpful information… Due to the ease of online transaction AND tracking the balance etc. I had made up my mind to open the PPF @ ICICI .. however now I have doubts and following questions –
a) I understand that for ICICI it is not a revenue stream so they may not be interested to make the service up to quality .. From different blogs I understand that there is still an issue of getting the proof of the PPF investments done. Since they do not issue any passbooks and there is no provision of getting the statements online .. though you can track the balance it does not help you get the 8oc benefit. See this blog —– https://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/is-ppf-in-icici-safe/3423/
What is your thought ?
b) In your blog it is mentioned that they discontinued the PPF facaility for some years because it was not giving them revenue and they had difficulties .. are they allowed to do that ? What happens to the PPF holders at that time ?
I think ICICI has come back with a better plan now on PPF . So right now its safe to go with them
Dear Manish,
I have few doubts, would be thankful if answered.
1) Me – Having PPF with Post Office
2) Wife – Having PPF with Post Office
3) Kid-1 – Want to open with Bank for online benefits (Wife as major)
4) Kid-2 – Want to open with Bank for online benefits (Wife as major)
As I have observed, the interest calculation is not as expected, so willing to transfer accounts with PO to banks. Records are kept as if a scrap-store. First place, can’t understand the writings on pass-book. Calculated annual interest just around Rs 2k for opening balance of 1.5L and around 60k additional investments. Clerks on windows doesn’t know how to calculate interest, and says its done by HO. Fade up!
Also got to know that POs not co-operating for transfer to banks.
Inquired in ICICI bank, but have to open equal number of savings accounts with minimum balance of Rs. 10K/Month. Will SBI be different and beneficial from this?
Please suggest where to go for SBI/ICICI?
In case you have some tool/utility to calculate interest for FY opening balance along with current year savings, so that I can show to Post office people and get the things corrected before transfer.
Thanks in advance.
Nilesh
There are some articles you can read
https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/07/transfer-ppf-account-from-post-office-to-sbi-bank.html
https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/06/ppf-account-rules-after-maturity.html
https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/02/how-ppf-interest-is-calculated-video.html
Hi Manish,
I want to open an PPF account in PNB.
May I know the Pro’s and Con’s of PPF , if it has.
BR//
Sanjeev Kumar
What exactly you want to know about PPF , here is one article – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2008/04/providend-fund.html
Dear Manish,
I need ur help for a/c opening in SBI delhi. but i have aonly documents(pan card,post connection bill its belong to delhi,).I have Election card also but is not belong to delhi address. I am working in delhi so i want to open a saving a/c in SBI , so please suggest me its documents help me for openning a/c.please revert soon.
Thanks
Pintu Sharma
I dont think you can open it then .. you need documents !
have any idea to open saving a/c in any bank in delhi area with this documents…….
Hi Manish,
I like to open a PPF account in my name. My primary concern is Online facility. I visited the ICICI branch and they told me, to open a PPF account I must have a savings account with ICICI. They offered me a plan where there will be zero-balance savings account with which my PPF account will be linked but I’ve to give minimum Rs. 1800/month for the PPF to have the zero-balance facility.
Please suggest should I go with this plan? Is there any drawbacks with this plan? Any more information should I ask to ICICI? I really don’t want to go to the nationalized banks due their laziness and bad behavior, specially SBI.
Thanks!
I think you can go with this , if you want to invest such a amount with PPF , also for PPF , SBI is a good option , but even ICICI is good
Hi Manish,
I’ve asked the ICICI bank executives about the internal process. As per them, suppose I’ve deposited Rs. 48000/- to the savings account linked with my PPF account on April, 1. The ICICI bank will put this money monthly in the PPF fund for 12 months, it means Rs. 4000/month. I will not have any control on this. It is clear that they will invest the rest of the money for their own purpose.
In this case, we will loose some interest amount from the PPF.
Illustration:
If I deposit entire Rs. 48000/- to my PPF account before 5th of the April then I’ll have interest Rs. 4128 at the end of the year. But, if ICICI bank deposit Rs. 4000/- per month (say before 5th of the every month), I’ll have interest amount Rs. 2236 only. So I’ll loose Rs. 1892 interest in a year.
really.. you mean if you do one time payment , still ICICI will put it on monthly basis, I dont think so .
Yes, you are correct you will have no control on that. That’s why they are offering life-time zero balance savings account. If Customer needs to deposit the money in their fashion (say, entire money at a time to the PPF a/c) then the customer has to take the normal ICICI savings account with minimum balance Rs. 10,000/-. That is how they are doing business.
I think this is a critical information for the customers who wants to open PPF a/c. through the ICICI bank and don’t know how the interest of PPF gets calculated.
Yea .. I think if thats how they want to do it , then its the terms and conditions .
Ur Blog is very informative Mr.Manish but pls give your info with examples
i,e for example u have give info about PPF but with examples pls.
What exactly is your query ?
Is it possible me to open an ppf a/c in SBI on behalf of my son? i.e submitting application form along with necessary documents required and signing on behalf of him.
How old is your son?
Hi,
I would like to open a PPF account in Delhi since I have been working here since the last 6 years. All my address proof’s (Passport, Driving Licence, PAN Card etc), have my address as Ranchi since I have been born and brought up there. What should be the best proof? (SBI does not accept Rent Agreement!)
Gurpreet
IN that case you cant open PPF there, may be a bank statement will work , check on our forum – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/
Sir,
I am working in merchant navy and since I am 183days out of India, I am a NRI for taxation purpose. Can I open PPF.
Hi Manish ,
I have opened a PPF account in SBI branch. I have a savings account in HDFC . Jus wanted to know if i can do online transfer ( third party) from HDFC to SBI ( PPF account . ) . Secondly , if the status ( balance in PPF account ) can be viewed online after doing the third party tranfer from HDFC. Kindly advice
You can do online transfer, but you cant view it online, the viewing can happen online only through a SBI saving bank account .
Hi , i am having PPF account in POST OFFICE for the last 3 years , can i transfer the amount to other nationalized bank i.e SBI or others and continue my PPF account there.
Yes you can , here is the process – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/07/transfer-ppf-account-from-post-office-to-sbi-bank.html
Hi Manish,
Under DTC will the interest earned per year on the amount invested still be exempted from tax??
Regards,
Ananda.
Can a person who does not earn anything (no job) can open a PPF account? My wife wants to open a PPF account on her name. She was having a job earlier but now she don’t that means ultimately I am the one who is going to pay for the PPF account.
Now,
Q-1) If there is no tax benefit is it still worth it having a PPF account considering there is no other constraint of money to invest in PPF?
Q-2) Can I contribute online by using my SBI account to my wife’s SBI account? Is that possible with NEFT system? Does that have any other angle for complication other than just system related things? PPF contribution by other person…than the respective owner of it.
Q-3) In near future say after couple of years if she gets a job & then she starts to manage her PPF contribution on her own. So can she then avail the tax benefit for the contribution she has made?
Q-4) Considering the fact that my wife will start working in near future & lock in period of 15yrs for PPF it is always good to start investing as early as possible so thinking of getting started for a PPF account for my wife as well. Is that okay?
Waiting for the feedback….
Any person can open a PPF account, job status does not matter
1. Yes , It will help
2. There should not be an issue , all you need is linking as you do with any bank account, so this looks possible for me, the only thing is officially you will record that the payment is going through us .
3. Past will be past , she will be able to claim tax benefits only from the current year in which she makes payment
4. Yes . .thats a good idea
Manish
Hey thanks so much Manish. I will do the needful asap now.
However is there any problem the transaction being recorded because I am transfering money to my wife’s PPF A/C.
Also it’s all right for now that she or I can’t claim the tax benefit for the PPF contribution. But lets say in the financial year 2015-16 she contributed for her PPF I assume that she can then claim for tax benefit for that year. But then I understood that she can’t claim for the tax benefit for the past years as you have mentioned.
Kindly just confirm whether my understanding is correct.
Yes you are correct 100%
Hello All,
With reference to the link below
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2010-04-08/news/27573941_1_ppf-account-deposit-savings-schemes
There is a caution point in the article saying……..
As of now, PPF falls under the Exempt, Exempt, Exempt (EEE) regime. Under the proposed Direct Tax Code (DTC), all small savings schemes, including PPF, are proposed to be under EET regime, which effectively means that the withdrawals from the scheme may be taxable once the DTC is implemented. The silver lining over here is that it is likely that deposits made and the interest accumulated in the account till the date of implementation of DTC may continue to be exempt and only subsequent contributions and the interest account may be subject to tax. The revised draft of DTC is awaited which would throw more light and clarify taxability of PPF scheme on a go-forward basis.
Though it is not a good move…anybody have any update on the same? pls share….
Thats old article . After that PPF was again put under EEE regime !
Hi one more concern in my mind about PPF.
My PPF account is active in the month of Sept 2012 now the maximum limit to which I can invest is 1 lac per year however considering the fact that I have started in September & not in April 2012, can I still invest all the 1 Lac rupees in PPF for the financial year 2012-13.
Please let me know.
yes you can invest 1 lac, it does not matter when you are investing , it can be anytime during the year
ohh that’s a good news Manish! Thanks for your advice it is really helping a lot.
i want to open PPF account in SBI, i want to deposit 2000/- per month, i.e., invested 24000/- in year. in between that again i want to deposit 5000/- in any month during the year. can i deposit the amount ? i.e., the no. of installment during the year will be 13. is it possible to deposit the amount?
No , you can only do investments 12 times .
Dear Manish,
Can we say that it is short term as well long term investment plan..?
I Heared that after 5 years i can withdraw my 50 % amount…is it right..?
If this happened then its best investment because you earn good interest with compare to any FD AND RD and its short term(5 years) as well….and tax benefits also….
You can withdraw only from 7th year, and 50% of the 2 yrs back total ! ..
Hi,
I have a PPF account in SBI, Can i open a new PPF for my son who is a minor and start investing 100000 per annum angaist his name or i cannot open the account in his name and i have to attach him in my name only with the existing PF running. Please Advise
You can open it on his name and you can become the guardian, but the maximum you can invest in both the accounts is 1 lac only
Manish, Is there any way to view the PPF account existing with Govt Post Office online? OR is there any way to link this with any of the bank account and then view the details?
No , you will have to first transfer it to SBI and only then you can view it online (if its linked to your SBI Bank) and also transfer money online , you first need to transfer your PPF from Post office to SBI , you can see this – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/07/transfer-ppf-account-from-post-office-to-sbi-bank.html
I have a savings A/C in UCO Bank and a PPF A/C in SBI. Can i transfer funds using NEFT???
Yes 🙂
Thnxx manish for ur promt rply, actually am Assistant Manager in UCO Bank, wen i askd in SBI dey discouraged fund transfers using NEFT, so i was confused. Also is there any restriction in the no. of tyms we can deposit in a month?
hi i m having ppf accnt with Local post office veraval under distrct junagadh, i gave application fr transfer my ppf frm post office to IDBI Veraval branch but they rejected my appliccation and gave in wiriting tht its only possible to transfer ppf frm post offivce toSBI branches and associates branches,but i want trnsfr ppf to idbi.
Hi manishji,,
If i am opening PPF account now and after 1-2 years I go to Outside country for job puropse for 2-3 years and again come back to India.In this case is it allowed?
Yes its allowed
Want to have information on ppf account after 1st 15 years are over. I know that it can be stretched in 5 yr. gap for unlimited time.
I want to know the withdrawal rules after 15 years are over.
Nayan
YEs you can do it for unlimited times , read this article for maturity rules in PPF https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/06/ppf-account-rules-after-maturity.html
Thanks.
so, you mean, its safe. I can open PPf by ICICI bank.
Hey,
How is it secure to open a PPF account with ICICI bank?
Govt has authorised ICICI to take payments for PPF , its not with ICICI , its with the Govt, ICICI bank is just intermediary !
Hi Manish,
I live in USA. Can I open PPF account online? pls advise.
NRI’s are not allowed to open a PPF account and it cant be done online anyways !
Hi Manish,
Can the amount of Rs 1,000,00 be deposited in parts of say 25,000 x 4 times of I have to deposit in one go. pls advise
Yes you can do that, upto 12 deposits are allowed in PPF in a year !
Manish,is there any age limit for opening ppf account
There is no age limit like that !
Thank you Manish for your reply
Okay Manish! thanks for your quick feedback.
Hi Manish / All,
Is it advisable to open an PPF account in ICICI Bank? Or one should not think about it? Is there any difference having an PPF a/c in SBI when compared to ICICI?
Most of the things I read on the ICICI web are similar (might be some catch in ICICI I doubt) pls share / advice if anybody has any idea?
here is a link for FAQs of ICICI Bank a/c for PPF a/c
http://www.icicibank.com/Personal-Banking/investments/ppf/faqs.html
There is no issue in opening it in ICICI , go ahead !
Thanks for your reply Manish however I always have a doubt on ICICI because of their pure business / money oriented approach. You can even feel that when you step into their bank facility.
I will check it out & do the needful.
Also, I tried to approach SBI Bangalore & asked for help to open a PPF a/c theit however they do not entertain us if you want to open a PPF account hoever they are ready to help you only if you want to open a savings accont in SBI.
Is there any rule of this kind as only a person having a saving a/c in SBI can open PPF a/c there? Pls advice.
There is no rule like that , anyone can open a PPF account with ICICI
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/complaints/icici-ppf-ac-c55003.html
With reference to the above link, there are so many frurstrated people only because they have a PPF a/c in ICICI.
Can you just reconfirm if you have any reservations on the ICICI PPF services?
Also to my other query on SBI’s PPF account where SBI saving a/c is a MUST so as to have a PPF a/c in SBI.
Thanks in advance
Some years back there was this thing with ICICI where they were authorised for PPF , it didnt work that time and lot of issues happened. Now they are allowed again , I can not recommend that you should go ahead with ICICI just because I am saying it , do your own findings before moving ahead . However i know few people on blog , who said they opened it with ICICI
Hey Manish,
Finally my PPF account in SBI is active & my first contribution of Rs 1000/- deposited to get started with the same.
For PPF a/c, SBI staff insisted me to open an SBI saving a/c in SBI. Then I read about the saving plus “auto sweep” facility of SBI Saving Plus account on JI itself & immediately open SBI saving plus account & it has been activated now.
This is all because of JAGO INVESTOR that I have finally started thinking & also acting on the subject “personal finance”.
Hi,
I have one question… I am an Indian citizen and am in foreign Land since 2 years on deputation. Can i open PPF account?
Thanks and regards
Abhimanyu
No you can not . You are NRI , and they cant open a Fresh PPF , once you are back in India and your status is RESIDENT , only then you can do it
How are they going to know that my status is NRI?
If you are confident that you can hide it from them , then go ahead , its your call . The only thing is its legally not allowed and if they come to know about it anytime later also , they will cancel all your interest till date .
Also to open PPF , you need to be in India .
Manish
Hi Manish,
Thanks! Can I open it in the name of my mother and later get it transferred to my name?
I’ll be visiting India in coming days, so I’ll be physically present there to open account.
Abhimanyu
Transferring of PPF from one name to another is not allowed .
Thanks Manish for this article. I had today opened the PPF a/c in sbi because of this article. The steps mentioned here worked like a charm except for the nomination part. For nomination the bank is asking signature from an account holder of that branch as witness and not just any person!
Now the next step is to try and pay through online using my CITI account. I will comment on how it went in the corresponding thread.
Thanks again.
Deiva
This is not usually done like this , but I think its a good step as it will make sure that later in future there is no complication .
As minor and his father limit 1 lakh. is that applicable for husband and wife 1 lakh per year or wife can make ppf in which she can deposit upto 1 lakh?
Wife can make seperate 1 lac into her PPF account
As most of the Banks are now accepting PPF Deposits, more and more Investors are expected to invest in PPF Accounts because the combined reach of these banks is more than reach of Post Office
Not sure about the no. of Branches of SBI who are receiving PPF Deposits, but most of the branches of ICICI have started accepting PPF Deposits
Great .. thanks for that information !
Great! We are waiting for the same Manish.
Hi Manish,
Also let me know the procedure to transfer ppf account from BOI to SBI. which bank to approach first with the application & ppf pass book.
You can contact SBI bank or BOI bank , they will give you a transfer form
Hi Manish,
Me & my wife have a joint savings account with SBI Bank. My Wife would be opening a new PPF account in SBI with me as a nominee and i would like to transfer mine PPF account from BOI. So is it possible to view both individual PPF account in Internet Banking ?
or both of us would need a separate Savings Account to link the PPF account to ?
Yes you would need to have seperate account, because you can view only one PPF account online that is yours . THis is my understanding , but check once by adding the account
Hi Manish,
I am planning to open PPF account in SBI bank. I understood that the minimum amount to be deposited is Rs.500/- and Maximum of Rs.1,00,000/- per year.
Question: In between the months from 1st April to 31st March, can i deposit variable amounts in number of times as per my availability of money.
As per the below example:
April-Rs.500/-;May-Nill; June-Rs.10,000/-; July-Rs.5000/-; August-Rs.500/-…and so on till March31st-Rs.15000/-
Thanks and Regards,
Sujith
Yes you can do that, and there is no need to pay the money each month, you can do it at the end of the year also !
Dear Manish
Unfortunately I have forgotten to deposit my subscription during last FY. Now I have approached the SBI to deposit the subscription with fine but they have refused to take it as the A/C has already completed 15 years. Can I extend it for further 5 years at this stage? Please clarify.
Anil
If you do not put any money after completing 15 yrs, then its deemed to be taken as a PPF account continue without Subscription ! . you can not put the money for next 5 yrs now !
if i open the PPF account do have to credit the same amount every year or it is our choice, means it is like paying the premium of any policy…
is it mandatory to deposit the amount every year or not ???
Plz Reply ASAP.
You can deposit minimum 500 per year ..
Hi Manish,
I have a ppf account in post-office. Is is possible to transfer it to a bank. ? Please advise.
Yes , I will show how to do it this monday ! .. Made an article on this !
Dear Manish,
Is there any fixed amount required to be deposited into PPF account in a year or is it according to ones convenience/capacity?
Minimum 500 per year !
Dear Manish,
What is the eligibility to invest in PPF A/C, is it like we have to open it in our kid’s name?
Thanks,
ROHIT
There is no criteria like that , just that you should be indian citizen , you can open it on your kid name if you want
Hi Manish,
Would it be possible to do online transaction from bank account rather than SBI to my SBI-PPF account?
I didnt understand your question
Hi Manish, I’m planning to invest in PPF. I’m confuse from which year I can take out the money and how much I can take out? What happens after 15 years, how will get my money back?
After 15 yrs , you can take your 100% money if you want . However from 6th year itself there is an option to partially withdraw !
Thank you, Manish! I appreciate that you sharing this information with me. Is it necessary to take out the after 15 years? After 6th year how much money we can take out?
No its not compulsory to take it out after 15 yrs , its just a choice .. withdrawing it after 6 yrs is a little complicated, search it on net
Manish – Thanks a lot for the awareness. I’ve opened a PPF account 3 days ago.
I will definitely spread the knowledge.
Vasanth
I am opened SBI saving account in my native place, where ther is no authorization for opening PPF account. I am working in chennai, i am planning to open PPF account in chennai using my savings account which is already opened. Do I need to submit chennai address proff while opening PPF account or my native proof is enough? Kindly clarify.
As far as I know , you will have to provide your local address , but this can be clarified by the bank officials only
Hi,
If i opened PPF account on March 2012, then for Maturity i have to wait till the year 2026 or 27? Because as per the finacial year(April 2011- March 2012) first year end on March 2012.
Please guide me.
It will be 15 yrs from Mar 31st 2012 (end of FY) , that is Mar 31st 2027 will be your maturity date
http://taxguru.in/income-tax/public-provident-fund-ppf-scheme-investment-limit-income-tax-benefit-features.html
As per this link i can withdraw on 1st april 2027.
Because i have heard that if we opened PPF account in the month of March, we can save 1 year from the maturity.
If i am wrong please correct me.
Yea .. because when you invest in march , its almost close to the end of the year .. so your actual maturity would be in 15 years and some days ..
Can 1 person have 2 PPF accounts in 2 different banks?? like 1 in SBI and the other in ICICI.. so i can invest more than 1 lack..?
Please tell me what is the interest if I deposits 1 Lake/y .
And also tell me I am not a salaried employee so, I open ppf A/c
Devanil
Yes you can open the PPF account, you will get maximum interest if you deposit the money in start of the year
Hi, can a PPF account can be opened as a joint acount (both husband and wife)
No
I tried to open PPF account in SBI Dombivli-Maharashtra Branch since last 1 month, the customer friend Bhushan is not having knowlge about the bank or how to treat customer… The bank staff is very bad and treate the customer like a ……, They even not reply gently, THey directly said if you wanna to open account follow us else you are free to open the account in other banks, Now I get frustated and would like to complain about the staff… let me know the higher authority personals.. for complaint…
Sachin
You can complain to banking ombudsman : https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2011/04/banking-ombudsman.html
Hi,
my wife having a ppf account in sbi, i am nominee in that account, now i am planning to open ppf account it is ok and we can claim tax deductions for my wife ppf deposits please confirm
Yes , thats totally fine !
Dear Manish,
Please explain in brief
Hi,
This forum give me a great idea of PPF. I am also interested to open one PPF account in SBI. My concern is like, I am having my salary account in SBI. So will I be able to link my newly opening PPF account to the salary account so that I can see my both accounts in one screen. Also I am trying to open my PPF account from a different brach as my salary branch is based out in a different location.
If anyone tried this, please help on this.
Regards,
Charls
Charls
You should be able to link it with your SBI account even if its open at some other place, follow this post : https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2011/12/ppf-account-online-investing-netbanking.html
Can i withdrawn my PPF Amount after its maturity (let say after 7 year) from any where of SBI Branch or it can be withdrawn only from the SBI bank, where i had opened my PPF account ?????????
Gaurav
You can withdraw it from the main branch only and its after 15 yrs
i have change my mobile number for INTERNET banking and produce bank approval form in my sbi branch. but my new mobile number not been activated (for information, do not call service activated). and previous mobile no also not send any msg regarding net transaction . pls help how i get net seure pass ward during transaction ?
You need to first get it changed in your documents , whats stopping you from that ?
manish do u have ppf a/c
whats the use of ppf a/c when we have the options of fd &rd facilities
Its just another investment option, if you want to do , there is no compulsion
I have PPF account in SBI, but last 7 year not using this account (no money deposit). Now can I continue the PPF Account?
Any information is much appreciated
Rengasamy
Your PPF account must be in dormant state as of now .. so first you need to pay Rs 50 X 7 per year penalty to revive the account and also deposit 500 X 7 into account for last 7 yrs .. then it will come into normal state
Manish
Can some one help me.
I would like to start PPF account. I have a SBT ( State bank of Travncore) account and its from kerala. Currently I am working in Bangalore. My question is :
Do I need to open a new account for PPF?
If I go any SBT brach at Bangalore is it possible?
Or its all about a new account process.
It would be really helpfull if some can answered me.
Thanks,
Jinu John
Jinu
No , you dont need to open a new account for opening PPF account, but bank people will ask you for that, just to make sure there account opening targets are met
Manish
Waht is of the interest rate of ppf inbanks of sbi to transfer to KVB?Is it possible?
Swati
Does KVB offer PPF accounts ? If yes, then you can transfer it .. also PPF accounts interest rate is centralised , it does not vary from bank to bank
Is ppf or pf is same thing.I am doing job and every month pf is deducted.Can I open a ppf account in bank or post office
Dilip
That is EPF , PPF is different and you can open an account seperately !
I want open a PPF account in SBI. What documents are require????? Any body help me????
Please contact me .
Waseem
Its all mentioned in the article
i like it
Dear Manish,
is it right ? The best time to invest is between 1st and 5th of every month in PPF Accounts.
Yes
Hey ,
I have a SBI account in Hyderabad but want to open PPF account in Bangalore. Is it an added advantage if I have a SBI account but in another state . Can I ask them to link my hyderabad SBI account while opening PPF in bangalore?
Many Thanks!!
Sanjeev
Yea that should be possible .
Manish,
After reading this post,I have opened a PPF acc in SBI in July 2011 and made a one time payment for 70k.Now when am I allowed to make deposits for 2012?Do I have to wait till April 1st?
Raj
Yes . you should wait till April 2012 to make payments for 2012 . But now you can also make 30k more payment as the total limit in PPF has been increased to 1 lac in a year
Hello Manish
I want to add my daughter’s PPF account in Bank of Maharashtra as beneficiary through my SBI Internet Banking(RTGS) so that I can deposit money without going to Bank of Maharshtra.
Further I am holding a SBI PPF Account in my name and I want to get it linked to my Internet Banking savings account.
Please elucidate and kudos for the good work.
Swati Dixit
Dear,
I want wanna to open PPF account with SBI,
But i don’t have account with SBI branch, Could it possible to open an account??.
Nasir
Yes .. it can be opened without having a SBI bank account, however Bank people will tell you that its compulsory , Ask them for reason and rules proof
Manish
hello
i want to open PPF account in another SBI Branch where i have not Saving account. Can i open my PPF account there ? please tell me tax rebet limit of this account
Surekha
one person can only have one PPF account, so you can transfer your PPF account there .. the overall limit is 1 lac per year
Dear manish,
Really nice work. I have a question. Srinivas said that “As per new direct tax code, maturity amount will be taxable”. Does it mean that if i invest 1L Rs per year and i get suppose 30 L at end of 16th year does it mean net 15L Rs will be taxable and government will take away 5L out of it. Then complete purpose of having PPF is lost i think!!
Do correct me if i am wrong
Kuldhir
As per DTC also, PPF maturity amount is tax free. So the entire amount is yours.
thanks for reply anand. But srinivas has said in comment# 136, point 3.. that it is taxable. Why this contradictory view?
kuldhir
Srinivas
Because that comment was made when first draft came and at that time , it was mentioned that PPF might get taxable, which was ruled out later
thanks manish for such a quick reply. tomorrow i am going to open my ppf a/c with sbi, bangalore. Fortunately i have sb a/c also. This is going to be my first investment of life. wish me all the best.. hehehehe
Kuldhir
Best of luck .. just make sure you also ask them if your PPF will be linked to your SBI as well .. and make sure you read things before signing !
Manish
Kuldhir
That was a comment made when new DTC rule was in formation , now in revised DTC , that point is not there
thanks manish. ya i got it. i was just reading “Is Gold worth Buying ? A shocking Study” and i came to know that blogs’ birthday fall on 18th july. well mine is on 19th july. Why didn’t you wait for one more day to start this blog?? hehehehe… just kidding
kuldhir
Hi,
I just went to SBBJ Bank and there they asked me to open Bank account prior opening PPF. Is this correct? Should we always open an saving account and then PPF?
Regards
Gaurav
Gaurav
No , there is no compulsion like that .. its just a trick to make sure they add one more account .. ask them to show any rule like this .. Also why dont you open a PPF in SBI . that would be a better choice .
Manish
Hi
My wife has a current acct and a PPF acct with SBI and she came to the UK after we got married. She is currently working in the UK. Can she put money into PPF account? If she can, what is the easiest way of doing it?
Any information is much appreciated.
Thanks
Shiva
Shiva
Yes, she can do that … the best way for her is to make payment online to her PPF accouny using the way mentoined in this article : https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2011/12/ppf-account-online-investing-netbanking.html
But she needs to have PPF in a SBI bank
Hye,
Sir i have no taxable income but i want to open a ppf account (for saving & better interest) is it poosible to open & let let me know where is the best to open a ppf account in post office or sbi bank. If i open after that in yearly what ever amount if i want to deposit i can deposit or some fixed amount i have to deposit in per year & minimum how much year after i can withdrawl that money…..
Anand
Anand
You can open PPF account in SBI bank , also you can invest maximum upto 1 lac per year and minimum 500 per year .. You can withdraw your money only after 6-7 yr and that will be partially , full amount you can get only after 15 yrs
Manish
THANK U VERY MUCH SIR
This helps a lot.. Thank you very much!
Hi,
Can one open PPF account in post office and SBI simultaneously, if yes how ?
if no . why .?
Thank you in advance
Vikas
Vikas
No, because one person is allowed to hold only one PPF as per indian law
Manish
I visited a hyderabad SBI branch , asked to open a PPF account .. filled the form.. ad requested to open the PPF with same branch where the SB account is , which is Coimbatore, she said that would not be possible, that she can only open in HYD branch not cbe branch, and said that I will have to wait 1 to 2 yrs to do the transfer .
1. Can I open PPF with another state SBI from HYD .
2. To transfer , do I need to close the account get a DD from HYD, take it to CBE and reopen ? ( again the Branch operation mgr in Kukatpally, said so ! )
Please help Manish , this is so missleading .. what is the branch benefit in this ? I sometime wonder how you get all this information , and am thankful for your site !
PPF accounts can not be opened in any branch , there are preapproved branches , but there must be some SBI branch in Coimbatore which has PPF accounts ..
1. Yes you can , mostly the bank person is lying or does not know
2. You cant close the account like that .. you just have to fill the transfer form
Manish
Hi Manish,
Found your article helpful. I’ve joint account in SBI with my wife. And we do have our PPF accounts with SBI itself but with different branch. Now my question is this, can i link both of the PPF accounts with the SBI savings accounts? Kindly revert.
Thanks,
Pulin
Pulin
I think this can be done , try adding both the accounts first .. first try to add PPF account of first primary holder and then secondary
Great !! This is such an informative article. Thanks to the writer.
Thanks Sanjay
Keep visiting
Manish
I’ve a ppf account and savings a/c(internet banking enabled) with SBI, but the problem is that both of them have different home branches. Can i still link my ppf a/c with savings a/c, so that i can access both of them through SBI online banking.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Amit.
Hi Amit…
First using Onlinesbi, you log on to your savings account then under profile–> Manage Beneficiary–> Third Party
Then under Manage Third Party, add your PPF Acc. No.
Its very easy… Once done, you can transfer funds very easily.
Cheers 🙂
well, what i really wanted to know is if i can manage both the accounts through a single login to SBI online (which you can do only if both of your a/c’s are linked together), but in my case since my both a/c’s are with different branches..can i still link them together??
Thanks anyways.
Amit.
Amit,
If you have your savings account and PPF account in two different SBI branches you cannot link both of them with a single internet banking login. You will be given two seperate internet banking logins as I have recently experienced. You could have got one internet login if your PPF and savings account are in the same SBI branch only. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the reply Girish,
In that case, can i link them together after changing branch of my savings a/c to that of a ppf a/c??
thanks again,
Amit
I want to know that should i add nominee name or chenge , after opening PPF account ??
plez reply on my mail ID mention .. at erliest.
Rupesh
I didnt understand why you have this doubt ? If you can add it while opening , why do you want to burden yourself for changing it later ?
Manish
I want to acknowledge over here that its because of your Article I took decision to open the PPF Account at SBI during the month of Oct. 2011 and that was my first positive step towards 炉石传说电竞 Planning. And I feel that was a Gift from me to myself… 🙂 during auspicious time of Diwali..
Thanks Manish. Many times we want to do something, but we keep on postponing mainly due to ignorance about its importance and other reason is due to lack of enough clear information about it.. Your article had clearly gave all the reasons why to have PPF and this article tells how to open PPF with SBI.
Good Job… Keep it up. I am asking my friends too for taking this steps…
As far as experience of opening, it was very straight forward. If we go with all the necessary Docs (along with original). If we already have SBI Acc, it is REALLY ADDED advantage to get the PPF Acc.
Jeetu
Nice that you had your PPF at earliast
Manish
1) Please let us know , whether PPF drawal on maturity is taxable .
2)How much money from PPF account can be drawn say after completion of 20 years continued maintaining account ,
3)ransfer of PPF account from one place to another city & whether saving bank account opening is essential for opening PPF account .
Hi Anil,
1) No, PPF amount withdrawal on maturity is non taxabale uptil now. Post the new proposed DTC, it is yet to be ascertained.
2) If you intend to close the PPF account after 20 years, then you can withdraw the entire amount in the account. If you intend to continue for another 5 years then you can withdraw partially amounting to 60% of the balance at the end of 20th year subject to the 5 year block. This means you can withdraw during the 5 year block upto 60% only and not exceed it.
3) You can transfer the PPF account from one city to another provided you transfer it to the bank which maintain PPF accounts. You dont have to neccessarily open a savings account for the same.
I hope I have answered it correctly. Manish – request you to confirm the same please.
Girish
Even in DTC , its now clear that PPF will not be taxable , it will be tax free totally . Rest all answers are right .. thanks Girish for helping your fellow reader friend
Manish,
Need some information. Where can I download the nomination form for PPF? The SBI website does not have (I havent found it, if anyone has pls send the link). Also would the online netbanking for PPF is available?
Yea .. you can download it from here http://www.indiapost.gov.in/pdfForms/PPFNomination.pdf
Manish,
Thanks a ton for the form. I hope SBI does accepts the downloaded form.
Hello,
Thanks 4 u r reply for my previous quotes..
One more doube..
see in fiscal year 2010-2011 i have done 10,000 saving in PPF for tat 8% means 10800 i will get on that year..
1) whether i have to show 10K in my PPf or 10.8K in my PPF for investment proof ?
2) since ihave 10.8 K as a previous balance . next fiscal yr 2011-12 if i have deposited same 10K means i have to show that yr amt only .. or else it include previous yr 10.8 amt also in my investement proof to get tax excepmtion..
note : if you not understan my question , let me know i will repharse my sentence..
any way Happy new year,, and made another yr as sucessfull..
thanks
Ponnappan Ragu
Bangalore.
Ponnappan
Always you show the amount you invested , no matter how much interest you get or what is your balance , what goes out of your pocket matters , so here 10k is the answer
Manish
hello. i am geting to sbi saving.
hi, very very usefull post .. thanks a lot..
i just wanna to know wich one is best PF or PPF.
i think from my salary they will detect 12% as per govt say..
we can extn this upto 15% in PF.
how abt in PPF..
shall i deposite as per my wish per month.. suppose 1000 in one month 500 in another month 5000 in another next month like tat..?
and how long i can deposite this PFF ..how many yeare.. if i wish to discontinue after 5yrs.. bank will accept and give me my money back with intreste ?
Thanks in advace
Ponnappan Ragu
Bangalore
Ponnapan
You can invest in PPF , the maturity happens are 15 yrs and you can withdraw partially from your PPF after 6 yrs , read more at https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2008/04/providend-fund.html
can i transfer money from bank of india account to the SBI PPF account? or i have to trasfer money from Bank of India to the SBI account and then to the SBI PPF account ? please answer me as soon as possible
Pooja
You can direectly transfer money from BOB account to SBI PPF .. but incase you already have a SBI account and your PPF is linked to it , then why dont you invst via SBI bank itself ?
I have added the SBI-PPF account as savings account under my citibank account third party. Is it fine if I make the payment now ? Will it be reflecting in my PPF account when I go for a passbook update ?
Sampad
Yes it should , make a test payment of Rs 500 and see that it does not come back in your account in next 3-4 days . It will confirm that it is going to your PPF , check with Bank once and see that its happening
Manish
Dear,
Please tell me if i have opened a PPF a/c in SBI branch & in future can i change the branch of SBI to another branch of SBI
ppf account is very comfortable for saving account
Hi,
Could you transfer the amount from X bank to PPF account?
I have a salary ac with HDFC . I want to know if I can transfer money online to my PPF ac in SBI.
Please help me.
Regards,
usha
Usha
Yes , that can be done .. add your PPF account as third party and transfer the money like you transfer to other bank accounts
Manish
I would like to know the maximum amount that can be invested in PPF + VPF account in a financial year. Can I invest the maximum amount limit [Rs. 1,00,000] in PPF and also some amount in VPF? Is this possible?
Aparna
Note that PPF and VPF are totally seperate things .. there is no relation .
While you can invest in PPF upto 1 lac now and VPF also , but the tax benefit would be restricted to only 1 lac
Manish
can i transfer cash online in my ppf A/c through S.B.I?
will it do any harm to my agent
Hi Manish,
Is it possible to transfer money to my SBI-PPF account from other SB accounts(mine or others) using NEFT? If it is possible, do you have ‘things to do’/’guidance’ for doing so?
And is it true that PPF yearly limit is increased to 1 Lakh?
Thanks,
Balaji
where I open the PPF Account in Ghaziabad.
Yatendra
SBI
Sir,
SBI Janakpur road ,Sitamarhi (Bihar) Branch Manager says Janakpur Road Branch not authorised to open PPF account.So you go Sitamarhi SBI.
I want open in janakpur Road branch.
pankaj
Sir, i wnat to know the age of ppf account opening minumam and maximum
Meena
Meena
Its 18 yrs, but if you want to open for some one below 18 , there has to be a guardian
Manish
Sir, I want to know all benifits of PPF Account like Credit card, Master Card, . loan
Sir, I want to know all benifits of PPF Account like Credit card, Master Card, yearly maximum and minimum subspcriotion . when can i get loan from this account. How much amouont, the rate of intrest and duration and yearly bouns rate
Amol
Your question is not clear .
Hi Manish< first accept my thanks for this wonderful blog which helped novice like me immensely. I have one question on PPF and SBI account.
1) i had one student account in SBI and against which i opened up an PPF account at REC Allahabad branch.
2) now i m located in Delhi so for depositing money i have to request my father to do the traditional way.
#) is it possible to get PPF account get transferred to some Delhi branch and if can i do online transaction from my hdfc account . do i still need my PPF passbook to be updated
You can transfer your PPF account to Delhi.
Piyush
You can transfer your PPF to Delhi , you need to fill up a form and give it your target and source branch . Also you can add your PPF account to your netbanking and transfer the money online
Manish
Now that the Govt. has increased the PPF interest rate to 8.6% and scrapped agent commission. Is it effective from now on? Or is it effective from next financial year?
Can anyone please clarify this?
Subodh
It will be effective from the date which comes in the next notification from govt ,its still not clear , but for sure it will be effective from the next year
Manish
Somewhere I read that it is effective from 1 Dec 2011.
Have we facility to redeem/withdraw PPF amount online?
can v deduct the ppf per month from my hdfc bank salary accont
Vijay
Yes why not , just add PPF as one of the 3rd party accounts and then setup an ECS .
Manish
Hi
Need some help…..
I have Saving Loan Account in SBI, Now I want to open PPF account .. Please tell me the procedure for the same..
Pallavi
Here is the procedure : https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2010/02/how-to-open-a-ppf-account-at-sbi-bank.html
Manish
hi
i have 2 ppf acct at SBI. one for me and one for my spouse.now i want to open one more for my 6year old daughter at SBI. i also have a saving acct there.
please guide me.
Dr Manish
you can open the account , but for tax purposes the maximum deduction you will get is just rs 70,000 combinely for yourslf and your child , If your spouse has her own personal income , then she can claim seperate 70k also .
Manish
Since you can open PPF in SBI and post office , if you get hold of any agent , you can claim 0.5% commission from the agent. I opened two PPF a/c for self and my spouse and got back Rs 580 or Rs 480 (don’t remember exactly) from the agent for the amount of Rs 1,40000 (70,000 * 2) for lump sum payment. If you are depositing the amount Rs 70K in installments through the agent , you can claim 0.5 % for each installment you have paid.
Pradeep
Is that legal ?
Definitely not. However, I am doing the same since years. Actually, agents get 1% of whatever you invest per year. Hence, few of them don’t mind giving you half of it. Kind of a marketing strategy. The best part is the agent comes at your door step, fills up the PPF opening form, stands in queue in SBI on behalf of you, etc etc, which one would never want to do or can;t take out time. He would also come to collect the subsequent cheques.
In my family, we have 3 ppf accounts and no one has ever visited the bank.
Kapil
yea .. i heard earliar that there are PPF agents . good to know about this .
Manish
hi Manish
following ur advice i opened PPF account with SBI. it just took 30 mins for whole exercise. i attached my saving account as debit account. so now when i open my onlinesbi page i can see my ppf account . so i can see balance , transfer funds. so much more easy…. thank you
Sanjay
Great to hear that 🙂 .. congratulations
Manish
Hi all,
If I deposit some amount through agent then I get half commission as well as coupons from agent.
Is there any kind of benefit to me If I deposit the amount directly through internet banking in PPF account?
Thanks in adv…
hardeep
Hardeep
There is no harm in going through agent in PPF .. go for it ,.. just make sure your decisions are your own
Mnaish
Hi,
I am gonna open ppf account soon.
i just wanted to ask that what are the various options i have got to pay the ppf..
I want to invest 70k every year as its the max limit for investing.
shall i pay rs 70,000 at once (one time payment) or shall i pay it in the installments ?
I want to save my tax so can u plz guide what will be the best for me?
Do they start period from the after paying my 1st premier ? and is it necessary to pay all 70k before april (End Of 炉石传说电竞 Year) ?
I have a HDFC account and its account in which i get salary credited.
Thank You.
Sangram
The frequency of payment will depend totally on your comfort .. 1 time payment is ok .
Any payment between Apr to Mar is considered for taxation purpose
Manish
Thank you for PPF information. It is very helpful.
Ajay
Goood to hear that 🙂
I am salary class person.I have a daughter of one year and three month i want to saving for my daughter future.I have Please suggest me which is best for me for opening PPf account(Post office or Sbi bank) I have allredy a saving account in SBI bank, also how much rate of intrest. it is taxable income or not, plesae suggest me.
Ranjit
You should open PPF in SBI itselt .. the interest on PPF is fixed across everywhere .. its 8% at the moment
Manish
11 years service left. Is it wise to open PPF now? I don’t have tax benefit any more
No in that case why to put your money in lock in
Manish
i hv an ppf a/c in sbi from 1997 along with a minor a/c …n by mistake i am depositing in both the a/c which agregates above the limit…for eg, now the limit is 70,000/- and i am depositing 70000 in my ppf n 70000 in my daughters ppf…i was somehw not aware of the fact…i want to transfer my daughter’s a/c in her name as she is now major. will i loose all the interest or is there anyother way
bhu ki SBI ki IT branch me mera account hai magar PPF keliye main branch se baat karne per pata chala ki main branch me mera account hoga tabhi mujhe PPF ka form milega,mujhe samajh nahi aa raha hai ki jab sister branch me mera account hai main me kyon naya account kholna padega, us account meri salary usme aa jati hai to PPF account kholne ke liye main branch me naya account kyon kholna padega, unhe to sirf money se matlab hona chahiye
Shashi
Its not mandatory to open an account for having a PPF account , ask bank to give it in writing that they need an account ,tell them its against RBI rules .
Manish
Sir,
How to chaque my own PPF account Details ,Online of my personal computer.
Pradyut.
You can check it from your PPF checkbook or if you can access it online from your SBI online account (by linking it)
Manish
mai SBI me ek saving account kholna chahta hoon.
aap ye bataye ki iska process kya hoga.
Go to any nearest SBI bank.
Ask for New Account opening form. They will give it to you at free of cost.
Read it carefully for the proofs that the bank accepts for Identification and and Address proof. Some times you need to have a introductory sign from a person who is having the account in the same branch(Some people accepts event if you don’t have any such). Minimum amount equals to 1000. I have taken introductory sign from a Person whose account is maintained with some other branch in the same city
For Identification I have submitted PAN Card and for address proof I have submitted the Credit Card statement. Make sure to carry all the originals along with you. Carry 6 to 10 Passport photographs.
Never go on Saturday’s to open a bank account, because once I went and they told it can be done on week days only.
All The Best and Regards,
GSR
Neeraj
Its very east . you just need to fill in a form at bank with some supporting docuemnts .
Manish
I have a PPF Account in Punjab National Bank. I just want that know that PNB provides the online transfer facility or not. and, If they provide this facitlity then, can we online transfer money by other bank account in PPF or Not.
Thanks & regards
Sandeep Bhatia
Sandeep
you can add your PPF account as anohter account and do the online transfer .
Manish
Thanks for reply Manish. But I think for that PNB should also have online facility of PPF account. Is it required or not?
may i open PPF account in SBI ADB branch.
Vidya
Yea why not .
Manish
Dear Manish
sorry for the long gap.
i did ask the bank about the payorder charges for partial withdrawal from PPF and they said that is the bank charges for issuing a pay order and since i did not have a account where it could be credited directly, and want a payorder the charges are payable.
I remember reading somewhere that bank’s are supposed to issue payorder free of charges but that rule is not available in writing anywhere. If i get it in writing from some appropriate authority, probably i can get refund and also so many others will benefit with this info. I tried to find the rules over the internet but could not get it. Should i write to Direcotorate of Small Savings? Thanks a lot for your reply but going to Banking ombudsman without the above rule in writing would be futile.
Premji
You can ask this question to bank itself ,they are suppose to give you right answer , if not , you can then go to ombudsman for unsatisfactory reply from the bank
Manish
Hi,
I always make mistake while transferring money to PPF account. At the start of every month by mistake I always transfer 116 or 220 like this. But, when I check my PPF account online then I realize that it has to be multiples of 100s only.
Thank You & Regards,
GSR
GSR
Ok , so what happened when you put 220 ? Does it take only 200 and 20 is lost ! ?
Manish
The good thing is they returned entrie amount to the Bank account from which I did online transfer (My case it is ING Vysya)
But, it took two days.
GSR
ya its a small amount but actually I don’t want to give the real figure in such online stuff 😉 though the dates are correct.
But moreover, I want to know about this calculation, which might again happen in future. If anyone know any Government rule book about PPF. Please give reference.
Thanks
Samarth
what about the money i deposit in 30th June?? is the interest will be taken in regards on 5th July???
Is I need to do any deposit before 5th July?
Samarth
I am not sure on that , Does it really matter ? Its a small amount to spend so much time on . Dont you think so ?
Hi Samarth,
As you said, if you have deposited money from 1st to 5th of any month then they will calculate interest from that month onwards. Otherwise you won’t get any itnerest for that month. So, now you don’t get any itnerest for the month of June.
Now they will calculate interest rate for the months from 2011-July-01 to 2012-Mar-31. You can’t get interest for the past months.
The other rule is you can make 12 Installments only in a FY I guess.
Thank You & Regards,
GSR
Hi GSR,
I opened my PPF on 20May with 1000Rs. as Balance. and on 3rd June i submitted another 1000Rs. and now on 30th June i submitted 5000.
So you mean on my 7000(1000+1000+5000) there would be no interest. And inorder to avail interest ASAP i need to submit sum amount by 1st to 5th July otherwise July month will also not taken into consideration. Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.
Also in order to avail interest on remaining amount 63000(70000-7000) i need to submit that amount in between 1st and 5th of any month/months.
Thanks In advance.
Samarth
Samarth
Interest is calculated on 5th of every month , so you must have got the interest on 5th June .
Manish
Hi
Please help me.
By mistake I deposit money in my PPF account today on 30th June, inspite of the thumb rule of submitting between 1st to 5th of the months.
Please suggest what harm it will do in profit calculation, and how it can be averse.
I am planning to deposit 70,000 in PPF account this year.
Thanks in Advance
Samarth
Not to worry much. The amount deposited on 30 June will not be considered for June interest, but definitely considered for July interest onwards.
–Anand
its great 2 find every information just by a click. thanks
Aarti
Thanks
Sir,
I went to chatrapur SBI bank (branch code 55) yesterday for opening a ppf account. They told me to open a saving account first and then write a reason for opening a ppf account. Sir is it mandatory.
please reply
manoj
Manoj
As per my knowledge it was not mandatory , but there is some confusion on this lately and I am not fully sure if this is compulsory now or not , But its better if you have an account with them , its easy to withdraw the money later .
Manish
can i open second ppf account again after closing first ppf account after completion of 15 years
Milind
Yes . but why do you want to do that ? Just extend the first one , that way the locking period would be just 5 yrs , If you open a new one , it would be 15 yrs again !
Manish
yes manish is right . and you can have many 5 yrs. extensions after completion of first 15 years.
Banker’s cheque or Pay order charges in PPF a/c.:
Anybody knows definite answer to this – if there is a govt. rule that banks are not supposed to charge Banker’s charges for issuing Pay Orders in PPF a/cs.????
Last time the bank charged about Rs. 700/- when my son made a partial withdrawal from his PPF a/c. He did not have a savings a/c. with them.
I am under the impression that for PPF a/cs. the banks are not supposed to charge as above,.I tried to find out but could not find specific rule saying that banks are not to charge the Banker’s or Pay Order charges.
Incidentally PPF is a Govt. Business activity and not attractive to banks as it is very low revenue earning compared to the lot of work involved of submitting reports, separate stationery, separate records etc. But PPF has a strong public service angle and Govt. has made it compulsory for the banks to open and service PPF a/c.s. In this scenario some branches of some banks dissuade new account applications and do not give good service. Therefore it is advisable to open a savings a/c., even if it on nominal basis alongwith PPF a/c. Otherswise when bigger withdrawals are made, a big sum will be deducted as Bankers charges for issuing Pay Order.
Interest on PPF a/c.s: mstakes in calculation
I cross checked the amount of interest of past some years in my PPF a/c. and found mistakes. On my pointing out the bank credited the shortfall. So cross check to be on safer side. 🙂
Just sharing my experience –
I already had an account in SBI, New Delhi. I went to SBI, Hyderabad for opening a PPF account. They asked for existing SBI account number, which I provided. Also, I submitted PAN card and Bank statement copy as proof documents. It took some 15-20 minutes to get a PPF passbook.
Now a pleasant surprise –
When I came back home and logged with my saving account user ID, I was able to see my PPF account under account section. I was able to see transaction I have done till then.
Also, there is no need to add PPF account as Third Party in this case. As the PPF account appears as separate account, I can transfer amount using fund transfer (not third party transfer). Good thing is that, this transaction is real-time and the PPF account gets updated at the same time. Also, I am able to download statements, just like with normal account.
Great, isn’t it :-)?
Prasoon
Thanks for that info , its a great knowledge I can share with others
Manish
Hi,
If I have opened PPF a/c in FY 2011-2012 with certain amount.Then do I have to deposit further minimal amount (Rs 500) to keep my account active or initial acount opening amount will do the same?
Neelesh Singh
Hi Manish,
thanks a ton to you and other contributor to this blog, courtesy to you sir i opened my PPF account. and looking forward for it for my tax saving.
I have one query, which might sound repetitive. But i did not understand the funda about payment be made b/w 1st and 5th to make good return.
Since PPF is compounded annually, i should not be concern about the dates, since the compounded interested will be taken in regards only in year end. For Example, suppose i only paid Rs 10000 on 27th May 2010. So at the end of year (31 March 2011), the compounded interest will be calculated on my Rs. 10000, and not on minimum amount between 5th and 31th.
Please clear my this doubt.
Also, depending on above question, i want to know which is the better way to invest
1. (between 1st to 5th) monthly payment throughout the year.
2. yearly one time payment. (also please tell the date, if it important)
Thanks in advance
Samarth Joel Ram
Interest is calculated monthly, but added to the balance only at the end of financial year.
So balance at end of month matters.
better way is to invest on 1st of every month. (at least before 5th).
best way is to invest 70,000/- before 5th april.
Hope that helps.
–Anand
Thanks Anand for your reply
you mean to say that every month, Simple interest is calculated considering the minimum amount in a current month ( b/w 5th to 31th) and at end of the year the interest is added to Principle invested throughout the year, so to avail compounded interest. Please correct me if I understood wrong.
regards
Samarth
What are the payment mode of premiums (Monthly/Half Yearly / Yearly) of PPF?
Only constraint is you can make 12 deposits, it’s upto you whether to deposit half early, yearly or monthly.
My son made a partial withdrawal from PPF a/c. with SBH. He did not have any savings a/c. there, so bank’s payorder had to be taken for the amount. But the Bank charged Rs. 830/- for issuing the payorder. I think for govt. business a/c. like PPF, the Bank’s are supposed to issue the pay order free of bank charges.
What does the PPF rule say in this regard? To which authority should this question be referred for a conclusive authoritative reply.
Premji
I came across an exmaple where bank cut 25,000 as payorder fee . You should ask Bank for the explanation and show you the rules for it . Then complain to banking ombudsman about this .
Manish
Hi,
For example if X opened the account and he/she nominated Y. If X dies after 5 years then when and how much money does Y receives ?
Regards,
GSR
GSR
the nominee will get all the money and he/she will get it in some weeks , depending on the process .
Manish
Dear Sir,
I am having two savings account in your prestige Bank. The one which is Savings account(let it be A/c-A) and the other is Salary Account(Let it be A/c-B).
I got successfully transferred my B-account from Sahnewal Branch to Model town Branch in which, I was already having a A-Account.
My Fixed Deposit Accounts and PPF Account are linked to A-account, and now i Want to Close my A-Account, as i want only one saving account to be continued and would like to Link all the F.D. accounts and PPF account with the B-Account.
What should I do?. Kindly guide me the best way.
Rajwinder
I think a better thing would be to close account B and make it your salary account . Have you thought that ?
Manish
Thanks a lot…………….. Breif but to the point information….. 🙂
I have a Savings account in New Delhi branch with online banking facility and PPF account in AGRA branch without any intrenet banking facility. I want to link both the accounts to view online with one user id n password. I have visited both the branches with different versions from them – 1.) New Delhi branch – PPF acc needs 2 be transferred n I will lose interest for that period.Still no guarantee that both accounts can be linked as they have different CIFs…-2.) AGRA Branch- both the accounts cant be linked in their present form as both have different cust IDs but u can have a seperate viewing only password for PPF account after providing an application.
I also dont think it can be linked like bank account, you can only make the payment in PPF account through netbanking
Manish
My son is 30yerars old unfortynately is patially mentally retarded I want to open a PPF account jointly in self & his name PAN card, Voter ID cards are there in his name. can Joint PPF account be opened in this case
Hi,Myself previously worked in Bhilai Steel Plant,Bhilai. But i joined in Praivate sector.can i transferred my PPF amount.If yes then what is the process.
HImanshu
If its “PPF” account ,then it has nothing to do with where you worded earliar . PPF accounts can be transferred .
Manish
hi all,
can i do ppf online without going to branch????
Babu
No , you will have to visit the branch atleast once .
Dear Manish ,
What is formalties for PPF agent? I Wants agency of PPF a/c.
What is pvt. bank provide PPF A/c services?
Regards
Mehul
Thanks Manish,
it is the perfect information for which i was wondering for last few days.
Now I am ready to open a PPF account this week.
Please keep guiding …!!!
Abhay
Abhay
Nice to hear that . Just have a look at the comemnts section , there is loads of info there .
manish
How to withdraw desired amount from PPF Acc.???????
After open an account when can I withdraw money, Is that any restriiction for that????? Just like after open an acc only after 1,2 or 3 years back you can withdraw the money….??
How many times in a year I can withdraw money….????
Can any one help me…!!!
Sandip
You can withdraw only after 7th year and that would be restricted to some ratio .
manish
Manish, In case of death of the account holder, can his nominee continue the account, if he cannont, then when would the nominee recieve tne entire money.
He can continue but a nominee her/him self cannot nominate,hence s/he should withdraw as soon as it is possible after the mishap.
Neelesh
Ha Manish, please clear my two doubts. 1. I understand a person cannot have two PPF accounts on his name in two different branches of SBI, am i right. 2. Can a person have two seperate PPF account in SBI and post office on his name.
Shekhar
No , a person can have just 1 PPF . Thats all . He gets a PPF account number which is with govt , from whereever you open it .
1 person = 1 PPF
manish
Ha Manish, thanks for the jet fast reply, also i feel it would be helpfull if you add the point of ur reply directly in ur article.
I didnt understnad what you mena by point of ur reply ?
Manish
Ha Manish, i meant the part “a person can have just 1 PPF . Thats all . He gets a PPF account number which is with govt , from where ever you open it .1 person = 1 PPF ,either it may be from or SBI
at any time if it is found that you have second PPF ac. ur second account will be discontinued and ur principle amount will be refunded…. NOT INTEREST
if any time it is found that u have two PPF accounts. your second account will be closed and you will be refunded only principal amount. no interst will be paid to u
Manish, Thanks for the prompt reply and that too at such a late hour.
welcome
Thanks for the post. I did open my PPF today. It is easy if you have sbi savings account. We need to fill the PPF form and deposit a minimum of 500/-
Raghu
Great . Good you made the start
Manish
@ Raghu
When i opened the i got it for Rs 1000. Has the initial deposit amount increased Manish ?
Neelesh
No , its 500 only . Do you have any source saying that its more than 500 ?
Manish
No, I don’t have any source but the SBI people @Allahabad were saying at the time of account opening that account opening is from Rs 1000 , so I believed them. Why is this so?
Neelesh
Neelesh
I dont think so ,the minimum amount is Rs 500 only , but i am not sure why they took 1000 .
Manish, can u please calucalate the interest earned at the end of an ear by two methods, i.e if i invest lumpsum 36,000 on 5th april and 3000 per month from the same day of an ear for 12 months
Shekhar
the first one will fetch you more returns
Manish
Everybody,
Recently i have opened a PPF Account in SBI. Apart from the stuffs that is mentioned here to open the PPF Account, I encountered another one.
They need two Witness signatures and a nominee name in order to open a PPF account. Though I had an SBI Savings account in some other branch.
The Thumb rule is,
You can have witnesses as your father and mother, provided you should not use the nominee as a witness
so, if you wish to use Father and mother as witnesses you need to use other person for nominee
So while opening a PPF account make sure you have this detail too.
Thanks for jagoinvestor for making me understand about PPF and to open the same
Harikrishan
thanks for giving that info to us , it adds to the whole knowledge base .
Manish
Hi,
I just went to branch and the above is true.
Also it is advisable to have one young friend as witness. Also better if he is not planning to settle outside country (non-IT) specially
Amit
Thanks for confirming this 🙂
@Harikrishnan
What happens when the same person is as a witness and nominee?
@Neelesh Singh:
Nominee and witness can’t be a same person.
hello, today I went to a SBI branch near to my place to open a PPF Account. I had a savings account in that bank but they told me that I couldn’t open PPF account because I am not a service holder. So I just want to know that is it true that only service holder can open this type of account. I do job in a private company but I want to open a PPF account. Can u help me in this matter. Can I open a online PPF account ? how?
Pallavita
I think they mean to say that as you are not an account holder with them , you cant open PPF with them , Why dont you open one account anyways !
manish
but manish I already had an account in that particular SBI bank. Now wt I have to do
Pallavita
Then ask them what is a “service holder” ? You should be able to open the PPF , they are all nautankibaaj
Manish
Hi,
I want to open a PPF account. But i dont have any saving account in any of sbi branch.
So do i need to have a sbi saving account compulsory for creatinga ppf account?
Hema
Is not mandatory , but some SBI branches insist you for that and tell you that its compulsory ,. see the comments section in detail , there is already a lot of knowledge there on this topic
Manish
Manish,
I’ve opened my PPF account 5 months back and that time they didn’t insist for SBI savings account but now I’ve visited same branch for my friend and they are insisting it now. When I told them about my account they said this rule has come up since last couple of months. This is same with another branch I tried. I dont know whether they can force us to open savings account for opening PPF or not? Is there any place where we can complain or find out whether this is official rule or just the branch employees or forcing unofficially?
Jayaprakash
I am not sure .. may be it has happened !
Manish
Hi Manish,
Your story is clear and the comment discussion has made more facts clear.
I want to invest rs 24000 in ppf every year. Can you please tell me, is it sensible to open a ppf account and invest in the month of feb – mar 2011 or wait till apr 2011.
– If i invest in feb – mar 2011, my 15 years tenure gets reduced by 1 year because the financial year is going to be over soon. My ppf will get over by 2025
– If i invest in apr 2011, my money will earn interest for the whole financial year of apr 11 – mar 12. But my ppf will get over only by 2026.
Also can you confirm, when ppf gets over in 15 years, does it mean the month of March of the 15th year?
Best regards,
Dinesh
Thanks for information tell me what is the benefit of ppf ?
Yogesh
Benefits are No tax at any point in PPF investments, Safety like rock solid , you can say 101% . Long term product , cant be attached in any legal proceeding .
Manish
I am already an account from sbi i will create RD &PPF for my same account number pls convey msg for me……………
Great to hear that
Hi,
I want to know whether PNB offers similar facility of online linking and deposit with PPF account as SBI does. I have a savings bank account in PNB but not in SBI and now when i want to open a PPF, i am looking for online facility to deposit from wherever i am posted.
I have been trying to confirm this from PNB officials but they are ignorant of it.
Can anyone either confirm or deny about this facility of Internet Banking of PNB??
Gaurav
Open the PPF acc at SBI and see if you can add the ppf acc as a NEFT payee from your PNB online acc. If yes then you could transfer money.
I transfer money to my moms ppf acc from my sbi acc. as a third party acc. So my guess NEFT should be possible.
Give it a try. If you know a fried who has a PPF you could see if his acc could be added as a trial.
Hi Manish,
My wife has a PPF account. Is it possible to (third party) transfer amount from my SBI savings account to my wife’s PPF account?
Currently Iam doing third party transfer from my SBI account to my PPF account.
Srihari
Yes , that can be done . PPF account is just like another account , and any one should be able to transfer money to it .
Manish
I have an SBI PPF account and i am transferring money online .Some how i missed to take the e-receipt of one of my online transfer which is generated instantly during the transfer.Is it possible to get the e-receipt of the transfers later from SBI site.If anybody have any idea please reply as i need the receipts + passbook entry for my tax proof submission.
Thanks in advance
Ivy
I would suggest you ask this question on our forum : https://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/
IVY,
In online acc. goto enquiries, and find transactions. Print the list of transactions, got to your branch and get it authorized by the manager. This should be good enough for tax proof.
A passbook entry is actually more authentic than an e-receipt. The accountants in your office need to grow up!
Hi Manish,
Your blog is really a blessing for people like me (I am the “I know that I don’t know’ types and slowly trying to graduate to “I know that I know” type).
All your articles are very well articulated and in a very simple, easy to understand language.
Thanks a lot. You are doing a wonderful job.
Recently I got my PPF account opened in SBI (Chembur, Mumbai branch).
I was told that now it has become mandatory to have a savings account in order to open a PPF account.
So I had to open a savings account prior to opening the PPF account. The entire exercise less than an hour.
I would like to add that I was surprised with the behaviour and attitude of the SBI staff. And it was a pleasant one.
Contrary to the belief, I found the staff to be very helpful and co-operative.
Uday
I would say that if you be cooperative with some one , they will be obviously very co-operative, had you tried telling them that you are not opening the SBI account as its not mandatory and show me the rule and blah blah .. It might be that the story would have been different
Manish
Yes Manish. You could probably be correct.
Very good information, thanks for guidance.
I have one question, may i open more than one PPF accounts in different branches? Or else if I have one in SBI, then may I open other fresh account in Post Office?
Bhushan
You cant open more than one PPF account .
Manish
once i went to SBI for opening a PPF account in Delhi. They demanded me to open a Savings account to open a PPF account however you said savings account is not required? what is this confusion?
Rathna
Yes , there is no rule like this for PPF , ask them where is this rule ?
Manish
When I opened PPF account, I did not have savings account in tht SBI branch. Tell them that you know all the rules.
Hi All,
I opened a SBI PPF account in Chandigarh (where I have local address Proof as my parents stay there.)I made online money tranfers from my HDFC bank account to the SBI PPF account.The money got transferred to my PPF account.I am working in Gurgaon.
If i visit any SBI Bank in Gurgaon can i get the statement of my PPF account /Passbook updation or I need to visit the Chandigarh branch only.
I wanted to request for online netbanking on my PPF account. For the same as well,can i do it from any SBI branch or i need to visit the Chandigarh branch itself.
Please reply.
thank you very much Jayaprakash for the valuable info. I will again try to transfer funds keeping in the mind the information you shared and let you know about the result.
Hi,
One clarification regading PPF…I want to contribute to it once in ayear instead of contributing every month. So if I contribute 5000/- on March 4th so for that FY do they calculate at 8% or at 8%/12 ?
Thank You & Regards,
Sudheer
Of course, it is 8%/12.
The interest for 5000 Rs is 33.33 Rs.
If you want to contribute only once a year then best month to invest is March because interest of the month is immediately added to the account balance on 31 Mar.
anand
I think its calculated every month 🙂
Manish
Hi,
To open a SBI Account do I have to know any person in the same branch, to make introduction signature ?
Thank You & Regards,
Sudheer
Hi,
Any inputs on this ?
Thank You & Regards,
Sudheer
Not required, if you carry a certificate from your employer.
Why don’t you visit the branch and ask?
Sudheer
There is no rule like this, but actually depends on supply and demand factor 🙂
i am the PPF acount holder at SBI chandigarh and have S.B. Account in SBI Allahabad. I have to deposit the money into my PPF account. Is it possible that the branch concerned at allahabad on request directly transfer the money into my PPF account. please suggest.
Yachna
Thats tough I suppose , you either have to manually deposit it from your PPF account branch or should have internet banking enabled and have setup your PPF account to accept online transfer
Manish
Excellent Post regarding opening of PPF account in SBI account It will be useful for all.Keep psoting this kind of stuff .
Steve
Thanks , which city are you in ?
Manish
first thanks for reply for prev. one more query about PPF .pl clerify about locking suppose if iinvest in 2010 70,000 rs .Maturity should be after 15 year from 2010 if further invest 70,0000 in next year 2011 in same account then the maturity will count from 2010 from dtae of oprenning of account or 2011 from date of investment.
also want to know what interset will be if deposite 70,000 in every year ,have a doubt that interset not paid if sum exceed 70,0000 . what if amount is 70,000 in one year and 70,000 in next year and so on.
Mukesh
The maturity of PPF is based on the date of opening, so if you invest 70k in first year and 70k in second year , the total will mature after 15 yrs 🙂
Each year you will get interest on whole PPF money , but in a year you cant invest more than 70k
Manish
I want to know about PPF account. as if I opened account on 8oct2010 ,then the next year eligible for investment will be next financial year, or 7 oct 2011 for depositing 70,000 which is max limit in year.
2nd if I open account on 8 oct2010 and deposited 70,000 ,and 70,000 in next year fr on eg.8 oct2011 ,then locking period applicable from date of opening account as from 8 oct2010 or from invested money every year
3rd which is best option post office or bank to open ppf account
Mukesh
It does not matter which date you invest in , if you invest in oct 2010 , it would be apr-2010 – mar – 2011 .
Manish
I have PPF account in Post Office. I can not operate the account monthly as I stay in outstation for service purpose. I want to know whether my account can be transfered from post office to SBI to operate the account conviniently ( as availability of core banking facility in SBI); and if so, how ? please giev me a suggestion.
Ranjit
Go thorugh comments , you will find how to transfer from PO to SBI and then start net payment facility
Manish
Hi,
My account is in SBBJ which i opened 6 years back. This account is STUDENT ACCOUNT.Can anybody wil please let me know if I can open PPF account in the same account’s Bank?
Thanks & Regards,
Dharmendra
Dharmendra
Not sure which bank is SSBJ , but you PPF account is not a bank account, you dont need bank account for that
Manish
I think it is State Bank of Bikaner and Jaipur.
It is ok if I do not get income tax, but not getting interest is something which is sad..
Deepak
Better invest in other debt product , overdoing PPF is not good .
Manish
Manish
I am operating PPF account for self and wife since 5 years. Now I want to open new account for my child.
If I open the account for the child as a minor account, can I deposit 70000 separately to the minor account and my own account ?
Deepak
Definately you can :). But you wont get tax benefit and any interest for your the amount over 70k
Manish
hi
does anyone know of any agent who is ready to share commision from mumbai?
thanks
Raj
Its illegal to share the commission , and why do you want to get that kind of agent who can not have confidence to charge his commission without sharing , if you dilute his commission , you are bound to get diluted advice . Any genuine/authentic planner/advisor will not entertain you if you talk to him for sharing his commissions , only agents who want to catch clients no matter what it takes share commissions .
And at last its illegal as per SEBI rules , so please dont get into this , else you might get in trouble later .
Manish
I rushed in to XXXX branch of SBI for opening of a PPF account. To my astonishment the authorised person redirected me to a local agent instead of providing me a format or information.
The local agent in reply told “sir you cannot open a PPF account without my name here……. I am maintaining more than 500 accounts under my credit.
I could not understand the procedure…….. Is the local agent right…..and; whether the investor does not have priviledge to open a PPF directly with the bank ?
Binaya
Its a wrong thing, the agent gets a commission when you open a PPF account through him (govt pays him , not from your pocket). You should demand explaination from the manager there or talk to higher authorities .
Manish
Hi,
First of all gr8 work Manish..i am a newbie to the site and liked it a lot..
Just to add to the points above ..today i had a strange experience ..
I went to SBI (a kolkata branch)to open my account ..everybody seemed too friendly and willing to open it immediately.. i read ur post before going there so had a strange feeling why they are so co operative..
I could not open it immediately because I wanted to make my mother Nominee and they asked for proofs for the same(This i was not aware of..not mentioned in original post..may be present somewhere in comments).
The Old Lady sitting in the counter told me to fill it up and come first hour on Moday..in case i require any help i can contact her daughter(This was funny 🙂 and exciting too)
I came back home with the forms started filling them and could find the reason behind their over-enthusiasm.Every page of that form was stamped with her daughter’s name and Broking Number, without my consent.what a business ..mom sitting in counter and every form submitted to that branch fetches her daughter 1% without any effort..
I believe that 1% is not cut from my payments..i wont submit the form till i can negotiate and get 0.5% from her :)..
But i made a mistake 🙂 i did not take her daughter’s cell no :)need to take it on moday..
Anindya
Haha .. They are exploiting the situation and making money for her daughter, the commission is not cut from your pocket
Manish
hey manish
what is your opinion on one opening this PPF account now since in new Tax Code picture is not clear on its tax exemption(EEE). Should one still have one?
Raj
Its picture is clear now , Its EEE .
Manish
dear manish , is it still advisable to open a PPF account when the present govt is planning to remove tax exemption for the amount which investors get finally?
kindly reply…
Two friends can open joint account in bank.
Thanks for this article. One query, Is it required that one should have SBI saving account to open a PPF account?
Rajesh
No its not required , however some branches can force you to open one
Manish
Hi manish 1% amt which given to agent will deducted from my ppf interest or not
Thanks
gaurav
gaurav
No , you dont have to pay agent any thing from your pocket . Its given to them from govt pocket.
Manish
Hi Everyone,
I want to know that do we need to submit some amount at the time of opening a PPF account. or it is upon us that in whole year whenever we want to submit we can? If so, how much is the min. amount we can submit at the time of opening the PPF account?
Sachin
you can start with 500 minimum
Manish
Dear All,
After Getting inspired from jaginvestor , FINALLY I opened a PPF account today through SBI (thanks to Manish specially for such efforts).
For the bangalore people who find it difficult to open a PPF account or the SBI staff are not co-operative ,
My experience was really nice today , I went to SBI , Richards Town,Mosque Road (near Banaswadi,MG road) , the lady named ‘Kalawti’ was really nice to me & I finally opened the PPF account within 15 minutes.
(you can visit this branch if your exp at other branch was bitter)
The process followed for me:
1) Fill up PPF account form
2) Fill up Nomination Form ( you need 2 wittness signature here , so better to take some one with you or you can just ask the person whether you can make the sign or not… which I did & SBI kindly allowed … 🙂 )
3) Your Photo ID proof (self attested)
4) Your address proof (in case photo id proof dont have address proof)
(N.B:- software people you can submitt company letter too…I DiD it)
5) 2 photo(PP) 1 for application & 1 for passbook
6) Fill Chalan with the initial amount to be deposited
7) Update your passbook before you leave the branch
Thats All………..
Nayak
Great to hear that 🙂 . Congrats
Manish
Please let me know the following: I am setting up my SBI PPF account in hdfc third party transfer. Could someone let me know the “account type” in drop down box ? What should be the account type choosen ? It needs a correct PPF account type.
Thanks
Sanjay
Sanjay
Are customer care people not helping you on this ?
Manish
None of the banks have nay answer for this or probably don’t want to help.
They cant give you answer as there are no written guidelines with any bank for adding PPF account. You can add it as savings account. Its a very old post but giving answer as it may help others who pass by.
I had opened a ppf account in state bank of india kodambakkam branch chennai. Since it was completely handled by my agent i didn’t have any records about that account. Now last 6 years i have not done any transaction in that account. Prior to that i was depositing money every year. Now when I visited the branch they are not able to track my account number with out any reference and ofcourse the attitude of the people is not to help me. As usual typical governement employee attitude. Can some one help me to how to find my details.
If u have the passbook and the account number with you , there is no reason they “cant find the details” , Write to RBI ombudsman on this as a complain if they cant/dont help you .
Manish
Excellent discussion about PPF which I just came across. I have however tried many calculators on web but found them wanting on one criteria or other. So I have tried to create one which considers most scenarios. I am glad if anyone finds it useful.
Venkat
nice , thanks for the link .
Manish
How I wish the daily balance rule which came into effect for savings bank account also comes for PPF ?
What is this minimum from 5th to end of month funda?
Anand
Daily balance thing will not make much sense with PPF as max 12 payment is allowed in PPF in a year.
Not sure of 5th funda
If somebody puts money in PPF account on 6th of the month, then this contribution will be calculated only for the next month onwards; and not for this month.
So the money put will earn no interest for nearly a month. How is this related to max number of payments?
The govt should have daily interest for PPF account too.
I wrote to ICICI to confirm if I can transfer money online form ICICI to SBI or post office PPF. They replied saying it is nto possible and they recommend opening a RD with them 🙂
My Query to ICICI:
——————–
Hello,
I would like to check how can I transfer money from my ICICI account to PPF account in following case.
1. If PPF account is with Post office
2. If PPF account is with SBI bank
Thanks in advance.
ICICI response:
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Kindly note that you can transfer the funds only to the savings account through internet banking. Hence, you would be unable to transfer the funds to PPF account.
Would you feel glad to save money for your Near and Dear ones on a monthly basis?
* Account linked Recurring Deposit
* TDS is not applicable
* Best monthly investment plan with minimum amount as low as Rs 500
* 0.5% additional interest for Senior Citizen
Looking forward for your revert with your Mobile number. We will revert to you within 48 hrs.
Ask them is it a rule set by RBI ?
Manish
Dear Friends,
we can do online transfer from savinf A/c to PPF A/c. BUT……..
May i know that if we want to withdraw money from PPF A/c after 4 years to our saving A/c by Net banking of SBI, is it possible?
i mean is that facility available? or we must have to go to offices?
pls reply me as i am in hurry…
I dont think reverse is true .. there will be some paper work from PPF side ..
But i am not sure ..
Manish
Now what i man to say is, Its easy to get investment & as well as tax benefit by PPF formula. But at the time of withdraral they just badly harass people. as per my knowledge there must be self withdrawal facility, because as per my knowledge it’s government skim, & we all know how all govt system works!!!!
Hi Manish,
Personal finance is a subject of my interest and very glad to see you educating the investors which is very much required.
Regarding PPF account, I went to Pulgate branch of SBI in Pune to open my daughter’s account and was told, “We don’t open minor’s account”. When I verifed with one SBI employee he said that’s not true. What I know is, one requires PAN to open an account but it’s unbelievable that minor’s can’t open account at all. Could anyone please confirm?
Please continue the good work. Best wishes for you always.
Ketan Shah
Pune
Ketan
thats not true , one can open a PPF account on minor’s name , Ask the bank why they are not opening and what are the rules , meet the bank manager and threaten him to take the matter to higher authorities .
manish
One can have a PPF account in his name and in addition to that can have a PPF account in his minor child’s name, but the total contribution to both the accounts would get exemption u/s 80C only upto an extent of 70.000/- p.a.
I visited state bank of indore in my town to open an PPf a/c but the manager insisted me that ihave to open an savings a/c along with ppf. so iwant to know wether ppf a/c has to be opened along with savings a/c and is it compulsory to open savings a/c?
Sreenivasan
No , its not compulsory to open a saving account at all . the officers at bank generally want you to open “something else” along with PPF so that you give them some business personally , I would say demand an official explaination on why its needed . you can anyways open a saving account and then close it later . How will it help him ?
Manish
Hi Manish,
It was excellent reading about PPF. and since i am trying to convince my family about PPF investment they are all negative on it.
Can you let me know where i can download the legal document saying there is no tax on interest gained on PPF .
So that i can be on the lead to say i am RIGHT. 🙂
Ashish
You can ask your family to enquire it at Post office and SBI Bank , it should be enough
http://www.taxguru.in/income-tax/public-provident-fund-ppf-scheme-investment-limit-income-tax-benefit-features.html
Manish
I have opened PPF account in post-office bef 8 yrs. since last 5yrs i lost my passbook and i m not depositing money. I do not have account detail. Now i want to reactivate it. How can i retrive it ? How can i get duplicate passbook ?
Hello Mr. Manish
please guide me how to retrive/get duplicate passbook without any information i.e account detail available with me. (passbook lost).
Visit the post office where you opened your PPF account and give a written application for issuing duplicate passbook with fine of Rs.1, they will issue the duplicate.
To reactivate, you have to pay Rs.50 for every non-paid year alongwith arrear subscription of Rs. 500 for each year.
Dear Mr Manish,
I had a PPF account with SBI and also my son’s account with Post Office. For one thing, SBI in most of the places is handling vast amount of Government transactions and incidentally the same counter is handling the PPF work also. So, it takes a lot of time with SBI, whereas in the Post Office the normal Savings Bank counter is handling the PPF leading to quick service. I do not know about the other places.
Elaya
Do you mean its faster to open a PPF at post office ? Does it matter ?
Manish
You will not believe it. For the past two days I was trying to make remittance in SBI (I want to make it before 5th). But there is a long queue in the only Government Counter which handles the PPF work. Or else I have to make it in the last week of the month since at that time the Government counter in SBI does not have large volume of work. Comparatively it is easy in the Post Office.
Elaya
ok , so because of all the lazy PPF account holders who did not do their investments before you are suffering 🙂
Manish
@Manish: one more query in addition to my previous query..
I learnt that as per RBI regulations interest on savings account (~3.5%) will be calculated on a daily basis and paid on a half yearly basis. Can’t understand whats the big change?
Asish
Yes . thats true , the interest might be calculated on per day basis , but dont get attracted to this so soon untill you do the maths yourself , the quantum of benefit is not that big at all to party 🙂
Considering 3.5% return , if we get return on montly basis (current rule between 11th and last day) the return would actually be just 3.55%
>>> 100* ((1+(.035/12.0))**12 -1)
3.5566952945970565
If we compound it daily , the return would increase with a very small amount . just .01%
>>> 100* ((1+(.035/365.0))**365 -1)
3.561797105718445
So , this is nothing to cheer about .
Manish
I want to add clarification on two points:
1) Why Banks are not interested in opening/encouraging PPF Accounts. Inititally only SBI was authorised to maintain PPF accounts. Later the authority was extended to all other nationalised banks also. I do not know whether private sector banks are given the authority. The main discouragement for the banks is that they are given (i recall from my memory that the Government is reimbursing o.05% for maintaining the PPF accounts on behalf of Government and also the fact that it is additional work load for them. So no other nationalised bank evinced any interest in soliciting or marketing PPF accounts. You could have very well observed that there will be no separate counter for PPF accounts but the same will be tagged with the Government work counter in SBI. If staff absence is there, the first casualty would be truncation of PPF work. And the poor PPF customer would be asked to come afterwards.
2) Regarding interest on Savings Bank on daily product basis:
Present procedure: Interest is calculated on the MINIMUM monthly balance between 10th and last working day of the month on monthly products basis.
For example, you are having balances of 8000/- on 1st, 10000/- on 9th, 5000/- on 12th, 25000/- on 18th and 1000/- on 31st, the monthly balance would be taken as 1000/- only.
But if the same is taken on daily product basis from 1st of every month, the daily balances outstanding would be taken up and interest would be calculated on daily basis. Even in the above example, if the interest is calculated on daily basis, it would be as follows:
1-8: 8000 * 8 = 64000
9-11: 10000 * 3 = 30000
12-17: 5000 * 6 = 30000
18-30: 25000 * 13 = 325000
31: 1000 * 1 = 1000
Total = 449000 for 31 days
So in the earlier case (on minimum monthly balance at Rs.1000/ p.m. i.e. 31000 for 31 days it is now 449000 for 31 days.
So there would be a substantial benefit for the funds in Savings Account.
Manish – I was reading this article on PPF and stumbled upon the savings interest rate in banks. In the old era the ‘least balance’ in the account between 10th and 30th of the month will be used for calculating interest. Now it is on full amount every day. It makes a lot of difference.
Say, a person takes home INR 50,000 credited on Jun 30, 2011. He/She will pay EMIs, All Bills and Fees and set apart something for investments and savings and possibly left with INR 10,000 by 26th of the month. The interest WAS paid ONLY on this amount – 10,000. Now the person will be paid 4% (ofcourse, 3.5% when this post was first written) on a ‘daily’ basis so every rupee earns throughtout the month.
The very basis for using the 10th to 30th cycle in the past was that most expenses will be incurred between 1st and 10th of the month and the interest outgo will be lower for the bank ;-). RBI found Banks are having free access to money and said: “Pay the customers!”
Oops, did not got down enough to see Elango’s comments. WHat I said is explained already!
Could you pls inform how to change PPF account from a specific BANK (say Bank of India) of one place to another Bank (say SBI) in an another city?
Normally how long this process (changeover) takes?
Thanks in advance.
Kausik
Its mentioned in the article itself .
* Go to the branch where you want to transfer your PPF account and deposit an application with your PPF passbook
* takes 10-15 minutes
Manish
Really nice and easily detailed;
At it is said:
The subscriptions, which shall be in multiples of Rs. 5, may, for any year, be paid into the account in one lump sum or in instalments not exceeding twelve in a year.
My question is can I submit twice in one month? The banker said yes not sure if he gave the correct answer.
Ashish
You can invest any number of times in a month , just that total in a year has to be 12 . Thats what we can deduce from rules .
No where they have mentioned that it cant me more than once in a month . I think they have put 12 in year considering that anyone will probably invest 1 time per month
manish
Manish,
How is the year’s 70K limit checked ? Is it considered for a 炉石传说电竞 Year: Apr-Mar or a Calendar Year: Jan-Dec?
I’ve opened an account in Febraury, So if I deposit 70K in feb, then will I be able to deposit further later in the year (say Nov) or will be allowed to do so in the next year only?
Chaitanya
Its from Apr-Mar , its very simple logic as its a tax saving instrument and tax is calculated from Apr-Mar 🙂
So you can invest max 70k or 12 times in a financial year .
manish
Yea,I have contacted them.
Also ,this is the first time that I will be paying Income tax but im not able to find the informations like the last date to pay income tax,whether i must add proofs of income while submitting tax, what does income tax return filing mean etc.,Would you be able to throw some light on these?
One more thing is how to file tax for the income from Adsense(Im earning full time from adsense)
I heard that ICICI has facility of Online PPF account?
Any details on whether they are available even now & also where to find more info & apply for this account with them?
PA
Not sure if they exist even now .. i saw there website .. but cant find the info . can you check with customer care ?
manish
Overall a nice and fruitful discussion and all of us gained many things. But having a small query and a suggestion for the forum.
1. Query is suppose someone has opened a PPF account in a Bank through a Agent and if he NOW links this account Online will the Agent get his usual 1% commission as discussed elsewhere in the blog.
2. My suggestion is One Must Open PPF Account only through an Agent, as he takes all the Hassles of Filling Forms/Depositing Cheques/Getting the Passbooks Completed/and even gives you an Incentive for ALL THE WORK HE DOES FOR YOU.
3. Opening directly PPF Account gives all the benefits to the BANK/POST OFFICE and YOU SUFFER because of their callous Sarkari Attitude.
4. And Good News is Now Your Agent is not permanent as was earlier. As you can always chuck him Out of business, by simply giving a letter to other agent if you desire to change for any reason like – poor services/non-compliance/delayed services/lazy person/indefinite delays/repeated excuses/refusals and your Transfer/relocation to other place AND LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST VAISE HI, kyonki ab voh theek se KAM NAHI KARE. No body is going to ask ANYTHING From You. You just need to identify a NEW AGENT and give him the letter and BE ASSURED till he is working Nicely.
Hi Raju,
Answer to your query.
If you deposit via online then agent will not get any commission and it is applicable in post office also if you directly deposit in absence of agent.
I mean, when you visit post office to deposit the money, you should go with agent then only he will get commission and he can share 50% with you.
If you go without agent, then no body will receive commission and post office staff itself likely to misuse this opportunity and take agent’s commission.
Srinivas
Ok , I thought the agent will get the commission only while the first payment . So agent will get it everytime . Nice to know this .
Regarding misuse, I think there will be some way agents commission cant be taken away like some signature, direct payment to his account or something like that .
Manish
Raju
Ohh . i never knew that we can change the agent so easily . I hope same is true for endowment plans 🙁
Manish
HI Manish,
sorry for the back-to-back posts. but this time i want to know how to transfer my PPF account from Post office to a SBI branch.
Look at the article , we have discussed how to transfer the account from one place to another , its very easy
Manish
HI Manish,
I want to invest 10,000 every year in PPF . Can i do this as a SIP through online. How is the interest calculated.
you can invest online , but there is no SIP (automatic) facility 🙁
Manish
Though you dont have SIP facility for PPF, but you can make it provided you have ICICI account and PPF account in SBI branch where NEFT is available.
I made it SIP way, thanks to ICICI bank standing instruction facility for NEFT transfers. Every month on 3rd, amount will be transferred from ICICI to SBI PPF account, and it will be credited to PPF account on the same day, so that it will be considered for interest for that month. I did it on 3rd because sometimes it may fall on Sunday or national holiday so it will be credited on 4th in PPF account.
Jayaprakash
Thats a good strategy 🙂
Manish
A really nice post Ashish and number of comments saying it all..
Suhasini
thanks for the comment , i am sure you are learning too much from the comments itself 🙂 . looking from your contribution . We always have something to learn from everyone 🙂
Manish
Hi manish
its realy a nice forum and a nice post.i m a regular reader of ur post n like it very much.
I hv a PPF a/c in SBI since 2004. i also want to share sm information abt it.
1) Min a/m deposit is 500/- and max a/m can b deposited is 70,000/- per year that is april 1st to march 31st.
2) Max time u can deposite in a year is 12 times, which can not be exceeded.
3) U can also take loan. the first loan u can apply is only after 3 yrs of opening of the ppf a/c.in that case u r eligible for loan of 25% of ur 1st year balance in the a/c which is repayble in convenient monthly installments not exceeding 36 mnths. you can apply for the 2nd loan at the end of 5th year bt no 2nd loan can b taken so long as the 1st loan is not fully repaid and the a/m of 2nd loan will be 25 % of the balance at credit at the end of2nd year immediately precceding the year in which the loan is applied for.
4) After the completion of 6th yr u can take out 50% of the money frm ur a/c.
5) After 15 yrs u can take out all ur money.(optional)
6) In case of death of the a/c holder the money can be given to nominee.
7) U can transfer the a/c frm one branch to other branch in other state also.
all u hv to do is give application addressing the branch manager of that branch in the state mentioning the branch name , state and code(MICR) no. of the branch where u intend to transfer and submitt the pass book. the problem of this procedure is it takes around 10-30 days (because of postal service and sm lazy work by bank staff, it is always better to hv phone no of the bank emplyee so that u can remind them if it get delayed) and 2nd problem is u hv to check ur self whether it is transfrred to the required bank or not because its my personal experience that the bank do not inform whethr it is transferred or not.
8) Yes, and in case u miss to deposite min a/m that is 500/- in a year then dont worry the a/c does not closes, but u will hv to pay fine of Rs. 50/- to regularize it.
9) If u hv a saving a/c & net banking in that perticular bank then the PPF a/c will automatically be attached to the net banking service, u dont need to apply net banking for the ppf a/c separately.
Vivek
thanks for your contributions . Most of them are correct, some of them have more detailed rules like “you can withdraw 50% of amount after 5 yrs” , see more
Manish
hi manish,
can we change the address, mentioned in our ppf form ….afterwards?
means when we transfering ppf account from one branch to another branch, then can the address be changed?…
and can we see the status of our account in online banking ( in sbi )?…
…
as i came to know from sbi branch,that u can see the status of ppf like ur saving bank account only if ur address given in both accounts are same otherwise not?….
plz guide,,,,
regards,
varun
Varun
The way you are doing is wrong , change of address can not be done while transferring the account . the way you can do is , change the adress first , once it gets changed in your SBI bank , then do the transfer . See Below
Procedure for changing address SBI Saving Account :
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Go to your branch and ask for Change Address form very simple form then give new Address Proof and submit it. Thats it. On passbook you can get it reflected after few days. I had changed to Harayana address she asked for Address Proof then i was having document issued from my company on letter head both Permanent and Temp written on that. It was easy process.
Credit goes to : http://nareshyadav.blogspot.com/2010/01/procedure-for-opening-sbi-account-ppf.html
Manish
dear manish
can we change the address, mentioned in our ppf form
If I do a ppf account in the name of my wife , will be able to tax benifit for myself
Biswajit
You cant do PPF investment in your Wife name . you can only open account for yourself and your minor child . Your wife will have to open a seperate account , even if you pay the money to her and she deposits that money in her PPF account , you cant get the benefit .
Manish
Manish,
I think one can claim tax benefit for ppf contribution to spouse or major child’s account.
See:
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/column_don-t-ignore-the-old-warhorse-ppf_1247883
Yes. From the link pattu has shared. It looks we can claim tax benefit towards the contribution made in spouse/major child name.
I know in case of NSC, My father had taken NSC in my mother name, but he could submit that as a tax proof for the financial year and it is considered by the finance team. My father was in state govt police service.
ok . So I got that point , but the article also mentions
“It is also possible to invest Rs 1 lakh in PPF for those who wish to do so. Remember, Sec 80C doesn’t impose any sectoral caps on investments. It is PPF rules that limit the investment to a maximum of Rs 70,000 in the PPF accounts of self and minor child. However, tax deduction is also available under PPF for investments in the name of spouse and children. Consequently, one can invest Rs 70,000 in one’s own account and the balance Rs 30,000 in say the spouse’s or major child’s account and thereby avail of the full deduction of Rs 1 lakh through PPF. ” .
So does that mean we can take benefit of full 1 lac ? I am myself unclear on that , can some one find out please ?
Manish
“we can take benefit of full 1 lac ” Yes this is my understanding. I have seen in more than one article that you can contribute to your wifes ppf. I am going to do this from April 2010. Will let you know if I pull it off.
I will definitely check with finance team in my company and let you all guys know the result.
Hi Manish Chauhan,
I completely agree with what the other Manish has to say.
You have already setup a standard here, by writing many excellent articles and that has clearly raised the bar of the kind of material you would offer.
Also, pan card is an ID proof and not address proof. It will NOT suffice for opening a PPF account. You need both, an ID proof and an address proof, and most SBI branches won’t allow you to open a PPF account unless you hold an account with SBI (with any SBI branch), so that they can verify your signature. The rules say that you don’t have to own an account with them, but in reality it is different.
Do not think that I (and the other Manish) are discouraging you. We are encouraging you to give us better material, like you always do.
That said, I’ve been lurking around for many days here, but have never posted a message. I must say that your site is greatly informative and educative in general and I appreciate that very fact.
Keep writing.
Das
Nice to receive a comment 🙂 . I would agree that I have raised the standard with article quality , but some times we need to have very general articles too like these which might be very basic for some class of people , but very informative for others . Even for people who know “how to open PPF account” got other information because of this same post (see comments) .
What do you feel ? Thanks for your appreciation 🙂
Manish
U r doing a yeoman service & responsible work, by making people financial literate.Please keep up the good work.
Thanks Rajiv
can we change the address, mentioned in our ppf form ….afterwards?
means when we transfering ppf account from one branch to another branch, then can the address be changed?…
and can we see the status of our account in online banking ( in sbi )?…
…
as i came to know from sbi branch,that u can see the status of ppf like ur saving bank account only if ur address given in both accounts are same otherwise not?….
plz guide,,,,
regards,
varun
Varun
change the adress before changing the address and when its done , then transfer , not sure about the online thing .
Manish
On a similar note, I get a reply from ICICI bank on how I can transfer my PPF a/c which is with Post Office to ICICI bank.
here’s the text:
Dear Mr. Singh,
You can transfer your PPF account from one authorized bank or Post office to another. In such a case, the PPF account will be considered as a continuing account. To enable to transfer your existing PPF accounts to ICICI Bank, the following process has to be followed.
a) You need to approach the bank or the Post office where your current PPF account is held and makes an application for transfer of PPF account to ICICI Bank. The application form will be as per the format specified by them.
b) Once the application is processed, the existing bank/post office will hand over original documents such as a certified copy of the account, the account opening application, nomination form, specimen signature etc to the you along with a cheque/DD for the outstanding balance in the PPF account. The cheque will indicate that it relates to PPF account number.
c) Once the you receives all the necessary documents, the same may be submitted at the authorized branch of ICICI Bank along with an account opening form.
d) If all the documents are found to be in order, the account will be opened as per the normal account opening process.
Following are the list of Authorized ICICI BANK Branches where PPF facility is available.
Bangalore – M G Road (2)
Panchkula (43)
Dehradun (164)
Vadodara (3)
Bhopal (55)
Ranchi (175)
Mumbai – Nariman Point (4)
Pondicherry – Mission Street
Madurai Main (6003)
Kolkata – R N Mukherjee (Retail) (6)
Mohali (58)
Patna (6259)
New Delhi – Connaught Place (7)
Nagpur – Civil Lines (59)
Thiruvananthapuram (Trivandrum) (6262)
Hyderabad – Khairatabad (8)
Vishakapatnam (60)
Kozhikode (Caliicut) (6265)
Chennai – Nungambakkam (9)
Bhubaneswar (61)
Kolkata – Gariahat (6278)
Ernakulam (Cocihin) (10)
Palghar (62)
Lucknow (6281)
Jaipur (12)
Boiisar (63)
Noida – Sector 27 (6284)
Chandigarh – Sector 9C (13)
Ahmedabad – Drive-In-Cinema (64)
Delhi – Mayur Vihar (6297)
Panaji (15)
Amritsar (66)
Cuttack (6342)
Ludhiana – Feroze Gandhi Market (17)
Manipal (72)
Guwahati (6343)
Pune – Shivajinagar (39)
Jamshedpur (89)
Shimla (6353)
Hyderabad – Madhapur (40)
Raiipur (161)
Darjeeling (6354)
Sincerely,
Riazuddin Mohammad – Emails DP – Hyd
Account Manager
ICICI Bank limited
Hi all,
As Imentioned earlier,I had send a mail to to ICICI & SBI bank in order to
check latest rules on PPF account for NRI and response is same
as mentioned/replied by Hemant,Srinivas & Manish.
Below is the response.
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Dear Customer,
We thank you for writing to us.
Currently NRI Customers cannot open PPF account.
For any further queries you can contact us through phone. Our toll free numbers are:
USA: 1 866 ICICI 4 U
UK: 0 8081 314151
Singapore: 800 ICICI 4 U
Canada:1866 ICICI 4 U
India: 1800 22 4848
—–Original Message—–
Subject: Query on PPF account
Hi ICICI Bank,
Need to know whether NRI can open the PPF account or not?
what is the latest rules & regulations ??
Plz respond back.Thanks
Regards
Yogesh
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Hi Srinivas,
If interest rate goes down in PPF in future then that time can put 500rs but as per
my views in current situtation can still deposit the money.
How u find Zonal & Branch Manager email id ?
Is there any site where they have mentioned this information for all SBI Branches?
Regards
Yogesh
Hi Srinivas,
If interest rate goes down in PPF in future then that time can put 500rs but as per
my views in current situtation can still deposit the money.
How u did Zonal & Branch Manager email id ?
Is there any site where they have mentioned this information for all SBI Branches?
Regards
Yogesh
You can get circle helpline email id from http://www.statebankofindia.com/user.htm ->Complaints and Suggestions ->Circle helpline. (General manager (1st CC))
dgm.customer@sbi.co.in 2nd CC
For Bangalore, AGM mail id is agmr5.zoban@sbi.co.in (3rd CC).
I will findout from other locations.
Srinivas
This is a great contribution , please let us know how you found out these numbers , “How” is more important than “what” here .. 🙂
Manish
First two email Ids I got from SBI website itself which are meant to be used in case of issues/complaints/grievances. Last one I got it from my friend. I will find out how he got it.
But first two are enough I feel.
Hi Manish,
In below answer whats the difference between Minor&Major child?? ..I didn’t understand.
Its means for minor child can’t get tax excemption but can get tax excemption for major child.
Q-10: Is it possible to avail Rs 1 lakh deduction under section 80C though we’re allowed to deposit maximum of Rs 70,000 under PPF rules?
Ans: Actually under the IT Act, there is no limit and even under PPF rules Rs 70,000 limit is meant for self a/c and minor a/c. It doesn’t include the contribution to the a/c of spouse and major children.
In other words, as per PPF rules, the total deposit in your own account and in the account of your minor child can’t exceed Rs 70,000 in a FY. But PPF rules doesn’t bar you from making additional deposit beyond the limit of Rs 70,000 in the account of your spouse or your major children and accordingly you can claim Rs 1 lakh tax deduction u/s 80C of IT Act.
@ yogesh
You can’t take 80 C benefit of more than Rs 70000. HNIs use PPF to get 8% tax free return; they invest Rs 70000 each in their family member’s name.
One PPF account can have maximum of 70,000 deposit f0r a financial year. If you have 2 account in your name and in your child (minor name) you can deposit 1,40,000/- but you cannot claim tax deduction for not more than 70,000/-.
Srinivas,
TWO PPF acc (yours+minors) “you can deposit 1,40,000/”
I disagree. Can you produce written proof of the same?
Look at the links in the article in section “Other points to Consider”
I have other links from the web which state total limit if Rs. 70, 000/-
PPF rules in PO and SBI passbooks dont contain this information.
I am also not sure, But this is how I understood the below statement.
“(3) An individual can open a Public Provident Fund Account in his own name. He can also open an additional account on behalf of each minor of whom he is the guardian. He can subscribe any amount in multiples of Rs. 5 of not less than Rs. 100 and not more than Rs. 60,000 in a year in each of his account. A year for the purpose of the scheme means a financial year (April 1 to March 31)”. (emphasis supplied)
The word “in a year in each of his account” made me to think like that.
No clarity again on PPF rules in Indian postal website.
Read the same statement (updated to 70k) from this website. http://www.statebankoftravancore.com/ppf.htm .
This was my understanding till now…let me find out more
Hi Pattu,
I found the below statements from these website(s).
http://www.statebankoftravancore.com/ppf.htm
“(24) The ceiling on deposits as provided for by Central Government from time to time, which is Rs.70,000/- in a financial year at present, is both for individual self account and account(s) opened on behalf of minor(s) of whom he is the guardian, taken together.”
http://www.bajajcapital.com/gss/ppf.html
The deposit in a minor account is clubbed with the deposit of the account of the Guardian for the limit of Rs.70,000/-.
You understanding is correct, Thanks for pointing out.
If you read the link I mentioned earlier, it refers to your links as not being updated. The addtion to the rules has not be put in. In fact there are many cases in which people have put more then Rs. 70000 in both acc and there has been some issues.
want to share a link: http://www.livemint.com/2010/02/09212937/Good-old-PPF-would-still-work.html
its says:
“You can open a PPF account in your name and in the name of each of your children individually. However, you cannot exceed an overall investment limit of Rs70,000 between you and the kids. This means that you need to apportion money so that the total does not exceed Rs70,000.”
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Jagbir
Jagbir , Pattu , Sriniwas
Says Harsh Roongta, CEO, ApnaPaisa.com: “It depends on the bank branch and is not a practice across banks. Some banks that do refuse say that opening an account in the name of the minor is unnecessary because an individual can only invest up to Rs70,000, including that of his minor’s.”
So shall we conclude that “A person can not invest more than 70,000 per annum in total including his children contribution” .
Manish
Jagbir, Srinivas and Manish, nice sources. thank you. Just last month I opened PPF in my mother name with me as nominee so that I can invest full Rs. 70,000 for my new-born.
Not many banks can offer clarity on this issue. Its time they printed this on the passbooks. Good to see SBT has some info on this.
Hi all
Some faq for beginner on ppf account.
http://www.themoneyquest.com/2010/01/ppf-scheme-rules-faqs-queries.html
Regards
Yogesh